Sid: I’ve got a couple I hope you’ve been listening all this week to Isaiah Reed, I have his wife Carol Reed on the telephone. Carol had been a prostitute for many years, and she was living the fast life, and she liked the money. One day Carol gets a phone call from Isaiah, the father of her child, and he says “I want to marry you. I found religion.” What did you think Carol?

Carol: Well first of all when he called me and he told me that… I felt as though it were a game because he had tempted me for so many years and I thought it was just a trick for him to get me back in to that lifestyle again which I was still in; my demons had gotten really big and so I didn’t really at first want to receive it, but there was something inside of me because I always loved him and wanted to believe this was true. So when he called me I immediately said “Yes I’ll marry you” because I really was at the end of hope for myself.

Sid: So you got on a plane with your… how old was your son at the time?

Carol: My oldest boy was 4 year old, and then I had another child 1½ who was part Jewish, and his father is Jewish. We moved to Hawaii, we flew to Hawaii and I really went there just to give my children away. I was going to give my oldest son to Isaiah, come back and find my second son’s father and kill myself.

Sid: Why did you want to kill yourself?

Carol:  I was very suicidal because I was living with a lie that I wasn’t worth anything, and suffered from low self-esteem, and I was drug addict…

Sid: Let’s go back. I understand you were raised in a nice middle class family in L.A.

Carol: Yes I was. I was raised in a wonderful middle class family. My mother and father both worked good jobs; we were born and raised as Catholics. Went to Catholic school had good rules and regulations…

Sid: In your wildest imagine did you think you would spend all those years as a prostitute?

Carol: No it was really funny that it ended up that way because I had good moral backgrounds, but there was just something in me from a little child…

Sid: Wait, wait, I remember in reading your background that when you were just a young girl your stepfather tried to rape you and you ran away from home. I guess that’s when things really got out of hand.

Carol: Yes that was the fork in the road. What really set that off is that when the incident happened I wasn’t believed by my mom. That just kind of destroyed me because I figured as a parent you know when your child is lying.  Sit across a courtroom from your mom and this person doesn’t believe you it was very devastating for me. So what t the devil did inside of me Sid “Well if they think you’re a prostitute then you might as well be one.” So he planted that seed within myself. So I believed what I heard “I wasn’t worth anything so I might as well do it.”

Sid: Well wait a second. Your successful as a prostitute, you have a pimp that likes to beat you. I mean one day he beat you for over 8 hours. Why did you stay with him?

Carol: Well this was the original guy that I had originally got with because the laws of Hollywood in the streets is you know “Girls do have pimps” and that was a security blanket for me. I thought as though I really didn’t have a choice, but after this gentleman beat me I got on my own, and went into the entertainment field. I was caught between 2 opinions one part of me said “I could be this great entertainer,” and another part of me said “I was never worth anything” so the more I got caught up into the lifestyle the more I did drugs, the more I drank. Next thing you know I didn’t know who I was, and time passed by.

Sid: Now you were living for a little while with someone most people have heard of NFL Hall of Famer Jim Brown.

Carol: Yes in 1984 I was Jim Brown’s girlfriend for several months, then we actually came up on a case where we were both arrested for raping a school teacher. Johnnie Cochran, the famous Johnnie Cochran who just went to be with the Lord. He was our lawyer, it was all over the news and everything, and we were found not guilty of that charge. I was like caught between 2 opinions part of me wanted to be in entertainment and the door was open for me, but another part of me was searching for love and so I was caught in 2 different areas. I was still a prostitute; I was still a drug addict and so I was like in a soap opera in my own little world.

Sid: Then you met Isaiah and you didn’t realize that he wanted you to be a prostitute. You thought he was interested in you, is that right?

Carol: Well when I first met him I figured he was one of 2 things because I had been exposed to the lifestyle. I figured he was either a dope dealer or a pimp. You have to understand something about that spirit and that nature you are drawn to your kind. So even though I didn’t want to believe it I knew there was a chance that was what he did. So he kind of swayed me in his direction because I suffered from low self-esteem, and you have to understand something about low self-esteem. When you don’t believe in yourself you need the validation of someone else to make you feel important. So when he took interest in me because I suffered from low self-esteem so bad to me that was a good sign. So I was really much lured into his direction, you know, even more so.

Sid: Now you 2 had a child together; would you say you were in love with him?

Carol: Oh yes from the very minute I met him.

Sid: You were in love with him and how many other women were in his group of prostitutes?

Carol: Well he had 17 other girls.

Sid: I understand he kind of favored you, and one of the women one day stabbed you in the eye?

Carol: After I had my oldest son, my son Deket, I worked the streets the whole time that I was pregnant, and these other girls were very upset because they had been with him for years and none of them had ever had a baby. For me to turn around and have a baby meant that he must of loved me. So while I was…

Sid: It was Isaiah’s baby?

Carol: Yes it was. One of the first girls kicked me in my stomach then 7 days after I had my baby who was a crack baby, he weighed 3 pounds 3¾.  Seven days after I had him I got into an altercation with one of the girls and when it was over she had stabbed me in my left eye.

Sid: Not only that when you were pregnant with your child Isaiah still had you out in the streets working?

Carol: Yes I worked the streets of Hawaii until I was 7½ months pregnant smoking crack, smoking marijuana, drinking, and having sex. Actually when I had my child I weighed 103 pounds at 7½ months pregnant.

Sid: Hmm. There was an incident where there was a young drug dealer that was interested in you and was stalking you, and your father actually shot him. What affect did this have on you? He killed him.

Carol: That was horrible. After I left Isaiah I moved to California and I was trying to get my life back together took my son with me. Because I was so driven to the demons I got into another relationship that was just as worse as the relationship that I was in with Isaiah, but when I decided to get out of this relationship this young man stalked me and my father shot him 5 times in front of my face with a 9mm. It devastated me even to the point where I got more tormented by the demons, I smoked more drugs, I couldn’t be alone I was always in the bed with someone different. It came to the point I became very suicidal, I didn’t feel I deserved…

Sid: Now when Isaiah called you to marry you I bet you were shocked.

Carol: Actually I was in another relationship and the night he called me I was swearing at the Lord because I was saying “How could You allow me to stay in this life when You know my heart?” I could remember hearing the Lord tell me “You can’t leave here until you do what I say. So you might as well get comfortable.” The minute he said that the phone rang it was 2:30 in the morning, I’ll never forget it, and that was Isaiah on the phone. He said “I got one minute and I got one question.  Will you marry me?”

Sid: Hold that thought, we’ll pick this up on tomorrow’s broadcast.

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