Sid: Well I’m speaking to Rodney Howard-Brown. He’s minding his own business in South Africa and the fire of God falls on him. God speaks to him even as a young child to come to America; he has this just a compulsion; he comes to the United States, he starts spreading the fire and the 3 greatest revivals in modern times in the United States I see a link where he laid hands on someone that was the catalyst for that revival to occur. And on yesterday’s broadcast Rodney we were talking about having a… on making a decision not to back down. You’re in Africa, you’re praying for some 50 dead people, the first couple of people you pray for no results, nothing whatsoever. What is going on in your mind at that moment Rodney?
Rodney: Well you know in the early days of the ministry you just obey what God says do lay hands on the sick. And when I called for deaf ears, I mean the line just kept getting longer and longer I mean in a remote part of Africa. And the bottom line is look I have nothing to lose; I mean it’s not my reputation it’s the Lord’s. So as I laid my hands on the first few nothing happened but then it just clicked in and the ears began to pop open and we begin to just see miracles. And I prayed for 50 people that day and it was really just phenomenal what the Lord did. And the Lord told me at that time that you just step out and you obey His word, and then He comes and confirms His word.
Sid: Now were many of the deaf people we’re they able to hear?
Rodney: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sid: Okay, that’s what I wanted to get. How many would you say approximately?
Rodney: Well it’s a longtime ago you talk about the first years of ministry, but out of the 50 I would say over 80% of them heard.
Sid: But the important point is, and see most believers that are hearing us right now when the first 2 weren’t healed they would have said “Okay, next subject.” (Laughing) I mean there’s something in you that doesn’t give up, am I right?
Rodney: Well it’s God’s word and I know that the Lord does it and it’s got nothing to do with me in the since of I have to be obedient. And there’s reasons why some people are healed and some people aren’t healed but the bottom line is we just go to the Lord in prayer and we let God do exactly what He said He’d do from His word.
Sid: Well, that kind of begs the question, you had a daughter who at a young age I think 18, she died. What did she die from?
Rodney: Well Kelly that’s my middle daughter she died at the age of 18 she died on Christmas Day of 2002. She died in my arms as I sang to her. She was born with Cystic Fibrosis which is a genetic disease that affects the lungs. And we saw many healings over the years but she just ran out of lungs by the time she turned 18 and so she went home to be with Jesus.
Sid: Now some people if that were to happen to them and they’ve seen miracles such I know that you have seen you probably seen multiple times every miracle that you read about in the Bible. A lot of people as a result of that get angry with God; they get bitter; did God show you why she died?
Rodney: Well here’s the thing our faith… Kelly nearly died when she was 11 months, she nearly died when she was 3 years of age. And the fact is that we needed to have a miracle. My wife and I carried her with our faith just past her 18th Birthday and then the moment she turned 18 it was like we couldn’t carry her any more. Plus she had a thing going on with the Lord; we couldn’t get involved in, we tried our best. and you know she’s with Jesus. She is healed, she’s walking the streets of gold; we know exactly where she is. And when I held her in my arms I made a vow that 100 million souls so the devils paying for that one. So it’s not a problem to me; I don’t feel any loss. Obviously we do miss her, but we know exactly where she is. And I often tell people “Listen, there’s many people going through heartache and situations in their life but don’t let that enemy use that opportunity to set you back; rise up in Jesus Name, do the works of Jesus and just keep praying; ministering to people; and the day will come when we all rejoice on the other side.”
Sid: And that’s the way it should be because the truth is the reason we don’t know everything is that we’re not God. And all we’re responsible for is what we do know, and you know to lay hands on the sick and see them recover.
Rodney: Sure.
Sid: Okay Rodney, when all these manifestations broke out at your meetings I imagine that you went through a lot of persecution. I mean personally I had never seen waves of the Holy Spirit with people laughing and row after row. In fact I have to tell you this funny story. I had an uncle that was a professional comedian and he used to watch on televison he would watch… actually when I interviewed you and he would… we would have B row of people laughing hysterically. And he would call me on the phone, and remember he’s a professional comedian. And he would call me on the phone and he would be so vile and so angry with me because he’d say “That guy is not saying anything funny, why are those people falling out of their chairs rolling in the aisles laughing hysterically. I mean and he was angry with me. Now that’s a non-Christian; I can imagine some Christians gave you grief too.
Rodney: Yeah. You know for the most part I mean the people that give the hard time are the religious people who think church should be done a certain way. But you know one thing I know from the Bible we have a Jesus when people went walking and leaping and praising God. And what happened on the day of Pentecost in the Upper Room with a mighty rushing wind and fire falling. But yeah, there’s been persecution but that’s all part of the whole thing of what we are to go through. But the fruit of the ministry remains and I think Jesus made that very plain. He said “You’ll know them by their fruit.” The fruit is evident now around the world churches have sprung up everywhere. I mean they might not look like us or talk like us but many of them will tell you pastors of churches and whole denominations that have sprung up the last, really since ’89. They’ll tell you “I was touched on the floor in a meeting, God spoke to me to start a church. I mean this is all over the planet; so it’s not stuff that I’m making up it’s what we’ve bumped into as we’ve gone along. So our job is just to obey the Lord and do what God tells us to do. Obviously there’s people within the framework of the evangelical movement that only believe in tongues you know if you speak in tongues you aren’t the devil. We can’t even discuss it with those kind of people that don’t even believe in speaking in other tongues. But the fact of the matter is that God is still pouring out His Spirit upon all flesh. We got over 800 million people in the world speaking in other tongues; God is moving by His Spirit and Jesus is coming back for a glorious church.
Sid: You know what the Pentecostal Revival a hundred years ago there was a black 1 eyed preacher that God used to start that fire. And he used to put a cardboard box over his head and he would not take that box off until God told him what he was supposed to do. How does it work with you I’ve never seen the box on your head? But how does it work with you?
Rodney: Well, you know we love worship so we’ll worship and the presence of God will come in and what I do is just like I tell people it’s like flying a kite, you got to find out which way the winds blowing. And then Jesus said “I don’t do anything but I first see My Father do it.” He said “I and My Father and I are one if you’ve seen Me you’ve seen the Father. And so the Bible tells us Jesus spoke the word of God and because He spoke the word of God, God gave Him the Spirit without measure. And obviously we understand that we have the Spirit by measure. Ephesians 4:7 says “But unto every one of us is given grace according to the gift of Christ.” But as we get up and we begin to minister and people place a demand upon the anointing the anointing begins to flow like a river. And the anointing is the presence and the power of God manifest that will touch people right where they are. In their homes they will heal the sick, they will set the captives free, they will destroy every yoke of bondage that will break the power of fear and torment. Get people off of drugs and alcohol, and heal marriages and restore people’s joy and get them off of depression and drugs for depression and deliver them. It’s the anointing that destroys the yoke of bondage. So I just really get up and welcome the Holy Spirit to come lift up Jesus and then anything can happen as we say and probably will, probably will (Laughing)
Sid: Now, I have seen people are your meetings when the presence of God comes on them they can’t even, they’re standing up like giving a testimony or something but then all of a sudden the presence of God is so strong they can’t even speak. How were you able to speak with the presence of God so strong on you?
Rodney: You know, I’ve know I’ve learned to flow with the anointing, but I will tell you this that even now the last couple of weeks I mean I get on the platform and I just start to weep and it’s hard to even speak because of the presence of God is so strong, and your just so humble in His presence. And that’s why I guess the word declares “There’s a joy unspeakable.” It’s very hard to put in to words to people exactly what you’re feeling because we really don’t even know how to explain it’s like an overdose of the love of God. Which as that song says “Great or far eternal pain can never tell, it goes beyond the highest star and reaches to the lowest hell.” The love of God is the most overwhelming thing and the presence of God is overwhelming. And I just feel that everyone just gets “The Touch of God” their whole life is going to change.
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