Sid: I’ve asked my friend who’s been a guest several times on Messianic Vision, David Herzog, Jewish believer in the Messiah. His latest book we’re making available and for some reason you don’t have it your mischugah, that’s a Hebrew word and it means crazy. It’s “Glory Invasion,” I’m speaking to him at his residence is Sedona, Arizona. David Herzog, why in the world would you been in a New Age capitol to live?
David: Well, for one it’s really beautiful.
Sid: It is beautiful I’ve been there and I can understand it from that viewpoint.
David: Yeah, well God told us to come here basically. He said, “I want my glory there in all the high places where the world thinks of them as high places or New Age centers or spiritual centers, He wants to be the center of those places.
Sid: You know what impressed me and about that area David is your heart for those people and the way that you witness to the New Agers that live all around you in Sedona Arizona explain that a little.
David: I just love it, well they’re seekers so they are very open and a lot of them have been let down by the church where they didn’t see the power, they didn’t see love, they didn’t see peace so they were looking for it some other way. And so then you bring it back to them in Jesus and they are amazed. One lady I walked into the health this health food store and she said “Oh you’ve been gone for awhile, where you’ve been?” And I said “I was overseas in Peru doing meetings” and she tells me she levitated. And I told her “Why would you do that?” And I said, “How high off the ground did you get?” “Oh I levitated about a foot off the ground.” I said, “Really that’s all, that’s pretty low.” And she was amazed and then I said to her “What about Jesus?” And then she said, “Oh, I love Jesus too, He appeared to me once when I got raised from the dead in the hospital.” So this lady had some experiences, after she was levitated she said, “Jesus appeared to her and took her to in front of the Kingdom of Heaven, but she could not get in for some reason. We know what that reason is, and then a voice came out in a bright light and said, “No man can come to the Father but through Me.” And so I prayed with her and I explained to her you know I didn’t need to go through the dream interpretation school to interpret that one, that was pretty basic and she was just amazed and she was crying and she was touched. And so we see a lot of people like that just have these experiences demonic and Jesus tries to appear to them in the midst of them sometimes and they just don’t have anyone to explain it to them.
Sid: You know what I love? I love the fact that you put, and I do the same thing, and what I say is “Oh, that’s just low level power; you really want power.” Now I don’t say demonic, although I would like to, the low level is demonic and the high level is God. So I don’t say that but just by saying “It’s low level” you immediately get their attention.
David: Then I said to her, “How did you feel when you were levitating?” She said, “You know it didn’t feel right, something felt weird about it,” and that’s where I was able to get in and explain the pure source of all power.
Sid: Now, you are tapped in to the genuine power of God; I mean you have what I have to call outrageous and when I do it’s really outrageous miracles, I mean people have seen them happen. People have instant weight loss, people have gold teeth, different types of teeth instantly appearing in their mouth; people with bald heads have hair growing. And why does God do I even have a better question than that. Someone said to me recently “I went to a David Herzog meeting and I had a bad knee. So I stood up in the glory and my knee did not get better but I ended up with a gold tooth, I’m grateful for the gold tooth but I just don’t get it.” David I don’t know if you get it either, but she really wanted that knee fixed.
David: It’s hard to understand but I found out one thing with God is He has His funny thing, He thinks He’s God. That’s what He…
Sid: Ha-ha, wouldn’t it be great if Jesus was Lord over every church in the world?
David: That would be awesome so basically I think that night He wanted to show signs and wonders and maybe not as much of the healings so that what He was doing. And a lot of times when that happening there is certain people that will never get saved unless they see a sign, not just a healing, a sign something that’s out of the box and so that’s a lot of times why God does that. But we do see a lot of knees healed and we do see cartilage recreated where there’s no cartilage; we see all that stuff; but that night maybe you know that what God wanted to do basically so.
Sid: Now David when I think of you because of your TV show because of your books; because of what you speak about when you have a speaking engagement I think of someone that operates in the glory. But let’s go to basics when you say “Glory” or I say “Glory” what does that really mean?
David: Yeah, the word glory is really a buzz word and everyone is using it now and some people use it for anything. Well, we know the anointing, the anointing is within you right? You’re anointing to do the ministry.
Sid: Of course.
David: Your anointing to do the ministry so you feel the Holy Spirit, you use your anointing, you pray for the sick, and God works with you; your anointed to do the works. And that anointing is like a battery pack, like a laptop computer when you unplug it you have a couple of hours then you better replug in or you burn out. So a lot of people do high level anointing they can burnout. But then I tapped into something called “The glory” and I can even add “open heaven” where I went from Acts 2 where you’re filled with the Spirit and you do the works, but by Acts 4 they are like “Lord we need a greater something, we need another outpouring, but something greater.” And I notice the difference is that there’s an anointing that comes within you and there’s a glory that also comes from outside of you an open heaven. So basically the glory realm can start off from an open heaven coming from outside of you where it says “Lord now stretch out your hands to heal” and you see their shadow starts healing the sick. So shifting from anointing to glory I notice there is a greater greater manifestation where you don’t always have to lay hands on people; many people can be touched being around you, or word of knowledge, or in the glory where it’s not pulling from you, you can feel the difference when your operating in the glory. Where in the anointing you can prepare all week for Sunday morning service, let’s say if you’re a pastor and then after that service it’s powerful but you’re knocked out for three days, you’re tired. Where at the glory realm now when I minister in the glory I can have a five hour service and when I get home I can’t sleep many times until 3 – 4 in the morning I’m still vibrating with energy of the glory. So the glory…
Sid: But I have to believe that that life of God that’s in you and around you is just ministering life to every cell of your body.
David: Yeah, it feels good, it feels really good; but the old days I would just do under the anointing, I prayed in tongues for hours and I would you know confess the scriptures which I still do that but then I minister to get God to move and see people saved and deliverance, and then like all the strength would come out of me and I would be exhausted. And this was because I was pulling it out of my battery pack the anointing. But now I’m operating it from the glory where it’s coming from the open heaven above me not necessarily; in fact my own battery of anointing get’s recharged when I’m operating in the open heaven glory.
Sid: Now, you and your wife graduated from Christ for the Nations, and went off to be a pioneer and you went to France actually and that’s…is that where you really started for you?
David: Well, no we started seeing miracles before that, we were in the states in Chicago and we were seeing paralyzed people healed, we saw the big miracles but it was mostly an anointing based. But we saw the healings and miracles before we left and then we went over to Paris, France and then from there we went to like forty different nations. That was like the first kind of Antioch base and after doing anointing and evangelism and healing and prophetic for a couple years I started realizing Lord there’s got to be something greater…
Sid: It reminds me of a song I wrote before I was a believer I was just out of college and the name of the song; no this was before I was out of college, and the name of the song was “There Must Be Something More.” And you know what David when I became a believer that was it, but what I found is you can’t find out everything in God everyday there is more.
David: There is always more and so that greater glory; I came to the point where “Lord if there is not more I don’t really want to preach anymore because I have exhausted all of the books on the anointing, on prophetic, on everything, on the deliverance moves and the Argentinean move and the renewal and the faith.” And I was open to everything and yet I saw good results, but I said, “Lord it’s going to take a lot longer to get the world saved at the rate we’re going.” And that’s when I stopped preaching, sought the Lord for about six weeks and He just visited me with a fresh new glory, about 1999, and then right after that I met Ruth Heflin so it was kind of a progression of just hunger.
Sid: Well, in your book “Glory Invasion” and what you just said, I hope everyone caught that; when you’re in the glory it speeds everything up. It speeds prophecies that you’ve had over your life up, it speeds sowing and reaping up; it speeds physical healing up, and if I heard you right David it speeds getting people saved up.
David: It sure does, it’s like a greenhouse effect where you can go to a nation that’s totally not ripe for the gospel, all the statistics are saying it’s going to take 20 – 30 years for any move of God and you show up and within four days, five days your seeing massive miracles and harvest and everyone’s saying “How’s this happening?” It’s like the Arc of the Covenant on wheels where you go you begin to ripen that area twenty years ahead of its time during the meetings that you’re there.
Sid: David, what kind of feedback are you getting on your latest book that we’re making available this week, “Glory Invasion” or subtitled “Walking Under a Open Heaven.”
David: Oh, we’re getting a lot of good responses, in fact the publishers within the first two weeks they ran out of books and had to keep republishing and republishing. There’s a great, great hunger for the supernatural out there. I talk about things that maybe a lot of people won’t talk about. Like “How did Jesus go through walls? How did He walk on water? How did does signs and wonders, how you do really operate in it?” So we had one lady read the book, she was from California came down to Arizona to one of meetings and on the way down reading the book she caught the revelation of being in the glory and once you’re in the glory how to operate in it. So she practiced on her mother who had a dislocated hip and she said, “In the name of Jesus hip.” And she did this while under the glory cloud, she tried it under the anointing, just raw faith confessing it and it didn’t happen, it’s been taking a long time. She got herself in the presence of the glory of God. Went back to that hip and that hip, I forgot how she said it but the mother said, it felt like a semi-truck ramming through a garage or something and that hip bone just shzoom rammed right back into its place where it needed to go in its socket and she was instantly healed. So the lady came and shared at the meeting how now she’s able to operate in these miracles instead of just watching me do it; she read the book so that she could do it. And that’s the whole point you get others to be able to operate.
Sid: Beyond this one woman have you heard of a lot of people that have sat under this teaching or read the book of the teaching and really been able to move in the glory?
David: Oh, yeah we’re getting a lot of…
Sid: Oh, we’re out of time…
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