DALE: And I went, and that day it was not the chapel service, it was the beginning of a three-day revival that fell on five college campuses. The Spirit of God literally canceled meetings for three days at the college. And I was spirit filled, I said, “I want that,” and it was like I was baptized in His love. And we went into town, started witnessing to people, and life and Christianity got exciting and I said, “Sign me up, Father God,” and He did.
SID: So there was a major difference when you were filled with the Holy Spirit. What happened after you were filled with the Holy Spirit?
DALE: Well, I saw an avalanche of supernatural things. I started seeing things and I would know things but there was nobody there to tell me that I could be a prophet. I just thought these were things of the spirit. And that was a great beginning, but God wanted to establish my identity as a prophet so he could work through me on a continual basis.
SID: Now, Dale is known for his amazing prophetic gifting. Very, very specific words to leaders about their destiny. Advice to presidents of million-dollar corporations. Counsel to those that have advised the presidents of the United States. You have so many wonderful stories to talk about, tell me one of your favorites.
DALE: Well, one of my favorites, Sid, I was on an airplane that actually had to land in another airport because in Atlanta there was a plane sideways and a storm. So I went forward, my wife was sitting between a Buddhist, the highest level Buddhist in America, fourth level, and on the other side was the atheist. We had been divided because the storm put flights together. And so I-
SID: Now those are two very interesting bookends.
DALE: Yes.
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CINDY: Well, the whole city comes up overnight it seems like, and it’s for a 10 day experience of free expression lifestyle. There’s a lot of artists and there are a lot of people out there that actually used to be in church, but they didn’t fit. They were the creatives. The whole city’s made up of theme camps. We created our own theme camp called the Freedom Lounge because he who the son sets free is free indeed. We wanted the spirit of the Lord to be very, very present. We told the Holy Spirit, “You can do anything you want to do that you can’t do in church.” We invited people to come with a menu board. We said our first menu item was organic restart, welcome to your new life.
SID: You’re speaking their language-
CINDY: Yes.
SID: But our meaning.
CINDY: That’s right, and we have the real deal. We have the Creator, the one who…
SID: But I have to tell you, you’re just one person. How do you get so many people that can do these things? Can read people’s mail? Can do dream interpretation? All these are gifts.
CINDY: Yeah.
SID: You can learn, teach them.
CINDY: Oh yes. Well, the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy, so he’s resident on the inside of us and we need to earnestly desire the best gifts, especially that we would prophesy. This is just one of the prophetic gifts is that operates through the prophetic realm where we give them a word of knowledge. We do a thing called organic root recovery, original root recovery—
SID: What’s that?
CINDY: It’s identity recovery. We tell them who God made them to be before they went all these other directions.
SID: Oh, that is so wonderful.
CINDY: And God would show us what He made them to be.
SID: Tell me one person that comes to mind that you shared with.
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SID: “For me.” So that’s included. Nothing is impossible for God. Cindy, you were a heathen, a nonbeliever. Somehow you wandered in a church and someone invited you to a Andre Crouch concert. Why would you even go to a concert like that?
CINDY: Well, I didn’t know it was a concert. I thought it was a Chinese restaurant, so I wasn’t sure what was happening. I went to this place and I kept circling around and around, Will Rogers Auditorium in Fort Worth, Texas and then I saw the marque that said “Andre Crouch in concert tonight.” The power of God was so strong. I honestly didn’t know if I believed in God, but I felt the difference. I felt that God was there.
CINDY: Then he said a statement. He said, “If you have questions in the corners of your mind or places of discouragement and peace you can’t find, reach out and touch the Lord because He’s walking up and down these aisles,” and that’s exactly what I did.
SID: Huh.
CINDY: I literally reached out. When I did, I felt the power and the presence of God. I knew He was there, I felt like my lungs opened up, I felt like this fog cleared up over my mind, I thought there was 500 pounds that went off of my back. I thought, “I’m new. I’m completely, I’m brand new. I feel different than when I came in here.”
SID: In 1992, you and your husband started something called PUSH. What’s PUSH?
CINDY: We were in a real dry season. It seemed like spiritually we’d pastored for a number of years and we were just in a very dry season and we just thought, “We’ve got to have more,” you know? At that time my husband had been praying and he said to God, “People don’t like the church,” and God spoke back to Him and said, “They’ve never seen the church.”
SID: Hm.
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JENNIFER: And then, because I couldn’t finish talking about Azusa Street because God came in, they invited of me back later to continue. And I told the story again, more in depth. And then he shared the testimony of what happened the second time he was there. He’d never, ever heard the audible voice of God, never encountered the Holy Spirit before that. As he’s hearing these stories, he actually hears the audible voice of God calling and commissioning him to be a revivalist. He said it was a life changing moment and he’s never been the same.
SID: Well, I believe that many of our audience are going to have some life changing moments, but you really caught my eye on something. I want to hear about the one-eyed African American pastor that sat in the pulpit with a cardboard box over his head until the glories of God showed
up. And he could be with the whole congregation there for hours, sometimes three hours with this box over his head. He said, “I’m not taking it off until the presence of God shows up.”
SID: This was called the Azusa Street Revival that Jennifer mentioned earlier, that took place in 1906. I interviewed a man that lived with a group of elderly women, as a young person, that were in that revival. He described that the glory cloud was so thick in the meeting the children literally played hide and seek in it. Jennifer, explain some of the things you have studied and heard. And I expect a demonstration as you listen, of some of the things she saw and heard happening to you.
JENNIFER: Amen.
SID: At Azusa Street.
JENNIFER: Oh, yeah. Azusa Street’s one of my most favorite revivals. It happened when a handful, maybe 15 African Americans, were hungry for more of God. And so they decided to pray and fast, but they would read Acts chapter two every night. They went to this little home on Bonnie Brae Street in Los Angeles. And they were just going to go after more of the Holy Spirit. They wanted a baptism of the Holy Spirit and they weren’t going to stop until God crashed in.
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SID: So you’re saying that just as God realizes, he needs a strategic partnership with man, demons realized they need a strategic partnership with a human?
FRANCIS: Well, because the devil is a, see, the devil does something Christians should do more often. The devil is good at copying God.
SID: Copying him.
FRANCIS: I always tell people there’s nothing wrong with being a copycat provided you copy the right cat. And I’m telling you, the devil knows if you copy God, you’re going to succeed. So Satan saw how God was entering the world of men legally by partnering with men that wanted him to move. So Satan realized if I can get men to also agree with me, like they are agreeing with God, I can also bring my spirits into the world of men. And so that entry point is what the Bible calls an altar. And you find it in every book of the Bible. No man has ever been used by God without an altar. And the devil has never used a man without an altar. It’s an invisible entry point that connects the world of men to the world of spirit. And I believe that is the mystery of unanswered prayer, is this invisible entry points that are in the bloodlines of people they don’t even know about. But every time they want to have a breakthrough, something happens to steal the breakthrough.
SID: Now you said that spirits need our permission, whether it’s the spirit of God or whether it’s the spirit of the devil.
FRANCIS: That’s right.
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