Sid: Sid Roth here with Mark Virkler talking about something that is music to your ears, “How you can hear clearly the voice of God.” Now you teach Mark on meditation of scripture in a different way than I’ve ever heard someone teach this before, explain.
Mark: Well you know when I grew up I just memorized the verse “To study and show yourself approved and I kind of never got to all the verses that says “Mediate on My word day and night.” So I asked the Lord “What’s the difference between study and meditation?” He showed me the difference when you meditate part of mediation is you’re praying over the word and your allowing God to illumine the word to your heart. And the way we experience that verse it leaps off the pages of scripture, hit you between the eyes and you know God has just opened that verse to you right there and right then. And I thought that every listener has had that experience.
Sid: Yeah but not enough!
Mark: (Laughing) well you can have it every single time you go the Bible.
Sid: Really I mean every…once and awhile I’ll have a Rhema; I’ll have you know scripture jump off the page. But are you telling me I can have it every day?
Mark: I guarantee you can have it every day because I do and I never used to and I do and….
Sid: So tell me I’m all ears.
Mark: Okay well you posture your heart instead of going to the Bible and saying “I can figure it out;” which is dependent on my brain and my abilities and me. I go to the Bible with a humble attitude and say “Holy Spirit would you show me what’s here?” And so I’m humble, I’m meek, I’m inviting the Holy Spirit to give me revelation, I’m tuned to flow because out of my innermost being shall flow. So I’m allowing flow to guide the process, I’m allowing flow to tell me where to look and what to look at and what to see and I’m starting with real life issues saying “God I’m struggling with this particular issue can you give me scripture show me principals here?” And I’m imagining here because one of the words for meditation means to imagine so I’m picturing the scene, I’m picturing the disciples, I’m picturing them breaking the loaves and saying “Lord what do you want to say to me about breaking the loaves in my own life and taking limited provision I feel I have right now and multiplying it so that it’s no longer limited?” And then I begin to flow and journal out a half of page of what He saying to me; so all of those elements are part of the book of mediation.
Sid: Now there are a lot of Christians that have a fear of visualization they think it’s New Age what would you say to them about that?
Mark: Well I would say it’s not New Age; I would say that New Agers are free to visualize if they want to they’re free to do anything, they can drive cars, they can get married but that doesn’t mean that I can’t drive cars or I can’t get married just because they do. And so I want to go back to the Bible and say “Does the Bible contain pictures and does it encourage picturing?” Well yeah it does here is what King David says in Acts 2:25 he says “I behold the Lord always in my presence, He is at my right hand and I will not be shaken.” And in Psalm 16:8 he says “I have set the Lord at my right hand.” Well that is a good visualization he decided to picture the Lord right there at his right hand and if King David can do it I can surely do it.
Sid: Yeah but I like the rest of that verse not only is He at his right hand he says “I will not be moved.” That’s pretty cool (Giggling)
Mark: Isn’t that great because you know I get pushed around by life, I get angry, I get frustrated, I get depressed and David says “I’m not going to get any of those things I won’t be moved at all as long as I see Jesus present with me.” Because He’s not getting angry, he’s not getting frustrated He’s calm and if my eyes are on Him I’ll be calm also.
Sid: Now you told me that God showed you 4 principals and each principal of course would take a long time to teach but I wonder if the rest of this show we can approach it a little differently. I’m wondering if you could teach me how to hear God’s voice and then people that are listening will kind of really capture what’s involved. And start me the way God started you I think that’s a good way to start.
Mark: (Laughing) Alright well we’ll just go to Habakkuk 2:1 and 2. Habakkuk said “I’m going to go to my guard-post.” So Key #1 is to have a little prayer closet where you go and quiet yourself down in the presence of God.
Sid: Do you find that it’s important to have the same place not necessarily a closet but the same place every day to pray? Does that help you?
Mark: It helps me and I also find early morning helps me but it doesn’t help my wife because she’s not an early morning person. But when I get up my hearts ready to download revelation it received during the night. And I just tune to flow and I pray for awhile…
Sid: Well revelation you received at night; what kind of revelation you’ve received at night?
Mark: Well it depends on what I asked for when I go to sleep at night I ask God to give me revelation.
Sid: Oh really I just kind of whatever God wants to show me He shows me you get more purposeful.
Mark: I’m more purposeful because the Bible…because our spirits don’t go to sleep our spirits stay awake and they work on anything you tell it to work on.
Sid: You know I’ve interviewed people that tell me they pray in tongues but they tell me when they sleep they’re spirit is praying in tongues all night long.
Mark: Well your spirits going to do when you tell it to do so you know if you go to bed praying in tongues you’ll probably pray in tongues all night. I go to bed sleep saying the name of Jesus over and over. As I breath in and out I’m saying “Jesus.”And if I need peace I say “Peace.” And if I need calm I say “Calm.” And so I go to sleep in the presence of Jesus.
Sid: Well what about…alright let’s take an example give me an example of something you’ve asked God and then received a dream on.
Mark: Well we’ll take this morning well how about this morning’s revelation okay.
Sid: Okay.
Mark: I did a blog a couple of days ago what’s wrong with the Protestant Heritage Foundation?” And I said “Well it’s kind of reactionary to Catholicism,” and I don’t want to be part of a reactionary movement necessarily. And so I’ve had 2 people email me and say “How do I find a really great Spirit anointed church?” And I went to bed thinking about that and the Lord gave me this morning a page and a half outline of saying “We can have Spirit led home groups, or small groups. You can open your home up and you can have these New Testament groups in your home where you meet together where you share the Spirit together, you have words of wisdom, you pray for one another, you lay hands on each other, you get words of wisdom, words of knowledge, you pray in the Spirit and you nurture that in the home group.” And I had a pastor 2 days ago who’s run a home group for 25 years and I called him up this morning and he said “Yeah, I’ll write a story of what we do in our home group and I’ll video tape the whole thing.” And I feel the Lord’s saying today “Paint a picture for people of what they can do in their home, how they can do it, put tools in their hand so that they can turn their homes into these Spirit led home-groups. Give people the freedom to grow in the Spirit and develop the gifts and they have a mini-church right there in their homes.
Sid: Okay, let’s come back to me help me hear God’s voice.
Mark: (Laughing) Alright you want to become still you want to have a guard post and so you know I’ve got to get up to my desk and I’ve got some soft soaking music on the background and I’ve got a smile on my face, I’ve got my hands on the keyboard, I open up a software file and I type in “Lord, what do you want to say to me today?” And I tune to flow and that’s to still my mind to get my mind out of the way.
Sid: Help me out “What do you mean, you tune to flow?”
Mark: (Laughing) Well God’s voice sounds like flowing thoughts that light upon my mind. And the scriptures support for that is John chapter 7:37 – 39. “Out of my inter-most being shall flow rivers of living water.” This He spoke in the Spirit and so when I want to tune to the Spirit within me that verse says “He feels like flow.” So if I want words from the Spirit I tune to flowing thoughts. If I want visions from the Spirit I tune to flowing pictures, if I want God’s emotions I tune to flowing emotions. And earlier in my Christian life I had no understanding of flow; I mean I memorized the verse “Out of my innermost being shall flow.” But I just didn’t own the concept that flow within me is an anointing of the Spirit of God. And when I speak from flow I’m speaking the oracles of God and when I think in flow I have the mind of Christ. And that thing that’s flow guiding my reasoning process. And when I tune my hands to flow and lay them on somebody who’s sick and there’s a flow of heat and energy that’s the anointing of the Spirit to heal the sick and to cast out demons. So anytime I yield the outer faculty to the flow in me that faculty becomes an extension of Jesus for that point in time.
Sid: Now just out of curiosity you sound like a pretty organized person and methodical, have you ever practiced flow while teaching or preaching and what’s happened?
Mark: Well yes I most certainly have what the Lord journeyed and talked to me about my teaching style. He said “Mark your teaching style and preaching style will be adjusted by your lifestyle; and the more you live and flow with Me in your morning devotional time right from flow and take Me with you throughout the day the more your preaching style will be adjusted.” So now I preach from flow, I teach from flow, I just get up smile tune to flow and off we go and we go places and we have rabbit trails that we go and I have to come back to my notes if I even bother to come back to my notes. But people love the teaching style because it’s real, it’s vibrant it’s full of passion and emotion, love. It’s alive with the Spirit where it used to be much more didactic, much more structured I had an outline and I looked at it. So yes my preaching style is now from flow any my speaking style is now from flow, and my speaking style is now from flow, and my counseling style is from flow; everything at this point is from flow and my conversation with you.
Sid: Now you have taught this “How to Hear God’s Voice” for some 35 years so why was there the need to do this new interactive book “Hearing God?” You had plenty of stuff before.
Mark: Well you know this is probably one of the simplest, easiest versions of the whole thing. We spent a little bit less time building the whole theology and a little bit more time just saying “Hey I’m at your side I’m coaching you I’m asking this question just fill it in and just go with it.” So without laying all of the intense foundation we’re just taking the person that just wants to coach and will trust that coach and saying “We’re going to walk you into hearing God’s voice very easily, we’re going to walk you into interpreting dreams very easily, and into interpreting scripture very easily. And we’re going to help you with the first half of a dozen of each one of those cases.
Sid: I have to tell you Mark there is such a flow of the presence of God on our discussion right now I can’t wait to get the reports. And by the way, do you get many reports of people that have sat under your teaching and have been able to do everything that you’ve done and more?
Mark: We get 100’s and 100’s of reports unsolicited reports all the time that come in on our website and on our email. And so we’re blessed beyond beyond belief.
Sid: ….But it’s not just Jewish ministry we are equipping Christians to be normal, normal as defined by the Bible. I got…Mark I got the most wonderful email in yesterday. I’ve had a burden to communicate the true gospel with people that are homosexuals and I have not been that successful. I have friends in the homosexual community but I haven’t been that successful. Well someone started watching our TV show that was gay and they wrote me a letter and they’re saying that they have been totally set free and they attribute it to just learning more about God from It’s Supernatural Television and Messianic Vision Radio. So that made my year as far as I’m concerned. When we come back I want to cover those 4 keys that God showed you.
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Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be on the right side of the fence because according to Matthew 25 there is a division between goat nations and sheep nations. And if you do not stand with the Jew in Israel this is what Jesus says “As you have done unto the least of these My brethren (He’s talking about the physical Jews) you’ve done unto Me.” The single dividing line between goat nations and sheep nations by God Himself will be on what will be on what you do with the Jew in Israel. I have Jim Goll on the phone I’m talking to him about his new book “Exodus Cry.” If you have not read this I urge you to get a copy because the history that he’s put together. And as you explained to me Jim it’s as if the Holy Spirit was directing you from one book on another book to put all of this history together so that the Christians could develop the compassion and the heart that God has for the Jew in Israel. But I want to start out with a question. What will happen to a Christian, I mean a Christian that believes in Jesus that’s born again or a church or a born again church that says “God’s through with the Jew in Israel” or “I don’t like what the Jewish people have done to those Palestinian people” and they’ve seen the biased press and not the true story. What will happen to those Christians, what will happen to those churches?
Jim: You know so much of this deals with the prophetic destiny of an individual’s life and the prophetic destiny of a congregation or let me take it further a city, a state, or even a nation as you have very well put, stated. Just recently I had the privilege of participating in at the State Capital of Nashville where our legislature with a Governor’s signature took a pro-Israel stand from the volunteer State of Tennessee. We up linked it and this went live and was broadcast live into Israel. You know what? If you bless Israel you’ll be blessed, if you curse you will be cursed.” This is a message of truth of God’s word, for an individual, for a family, for a congregation, for a denomination, a city, a state, a nation it is an eternal truth. And so here I’m not referring to whether a person goes to heaven that we’re all saved by the mercy and grace obviously through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ, but in progressive prophetic destiny. I’m going to tell you if you poke your finger in God’s eye the pupil that we’ve talked about in Zachariah 2:8 your eyesight will go out. You will stop in your progression of truth, you will stop in your journey, you’ll become a settler instead of continuing on as a pioneer. And darkness will be given to you instead of light. Let’s say it now in the positive what will happen to those that bless. Light will be given to you, blessing will be given to you, dreams and visions and revelation will be given to you. The privilege of partnering in God’s purposes in the end-times will be given to you, God’s heart will be given to you. But if you do the opposite…
Sid: I’m just wondering that one of the messages of the hour is to seek God, to have intimacy with God.
Jim: Absolutely.
Sid: Do believe that this is a catalyst for intimacy with God?
Jim: I believe that I believe that there are 3 things, actually 3 things that if you want to be close to God’s heart you need to be involved in 3 things. That’s with the poor, the lost and Israel you need to be involved in some active manner of your faith with the poor, to the lost, and with Israel. And if you will bless and if you will give yourself God will pour out on you His heart. I call it your heart will beat in rhythm with His heart, we call it greater union with Christ. You’re using the term intimacy I just say this Isaiah says this “I will draw near to you as you draw near to Me.”
Sid: Tell me a bit about the Mordecai Call.
Jim: Well you know in Esther chapter 4 verse 14 it says “If you remain silent at this time relief and deliverance will arise for the Jews from another place and you and your father’s house will perish and who knows whether you have not obtained royalty for such a time as this.” I am convinced then in this hour God is not looking for 1 Mordecai but He’s looking for a company of fore-runners that He will put this Mordecai anointing upon. And they become trumpeters, they become voices like Sid Roth, they become voices and I can list many different names today who are going forth preparing the way for the Body of Christ and corporate Esther to arise in this hour to take their stand before the throne of the King the throne of the universe and go in and make crisis intervention just like Reese Howells did in World War II and they labored over the promises. Not just preservation of Great Britain from Nazi invasion they labored over the promises of the birthing of Israel as a nation and of this hour. God wants to raise up modern day Mordecai’s that the spirit of adoption will rest upon and they will adopt Israel in their heart and they will help raise up this intercessory warring bride of Christ who will fight the fight the wars of the Lord.
Sid: Why should be average Christian in America be praying for the Jewish people to be saved for Israel to survive as a nation?
Jim: Well you know I kind of want to say it the other way, why not? You know again first of all it’s because the physical mandate. I got 7 reasons why to pray for Israel.
- Because Israel’s the apple of God’s eye; the inheritance which is close to His heart.
- Because God says that His servants should pray with compassion over Israel Psalm 102.
- We should do it because God commands us to give Him and ourselves no rest until He establishes and makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
- Isaiah 62 to receive God’s heart. God’s heart will travel through us for Israel’s salvation like He did Paul’s in the book of Romans.
- To seek the spiritual and physical wellbeing God commands us to speak to speak the spiritual and physical good of Israel. Psalm 122, Romans 15, etcetera and the Jewish people’s acceptance of the Messiah Jesus will lead to life from the dead a worldwide revival of unprecedented magnitude there we read Romans 15.
- And Isaiah 27 verse 6 “In the days to come Jacob will take root Israel will blossom and sprout and the will fill the whole earth with fruit.
- And the last one I just want to say real quick number 7 is “Why pray for Israel?” When you pray for Israel you’re praying for the Second Coming of Yeshua Hamashiach because Jesus Second Return is tied in with Israel turning her heart to the Messiah.
Sid: And as you know and point out in your book the Christians during Hitler’s Germany there were the exceptions the Corey Ten Boom’s and it’s that and etcetera but by in large Christians did not pray.
Jim: That’s right.
Sid: And look what the devil was able to carry out; it’s almost a I don’t know if you’ve ever seen this in the book of Esther since you teach on Mordecai.
Jim: Yes.
Sid: Esther went to the King twice it’s almost like she chickened out the first time on behalf of the Jewish people but she really did business with the King the second time. It’s almost like we’ve been given a second chance like Esther.
Jim: That’s absolutely that is my message in the book. We are being given more than a second chance. God’s the God of the 50 million chance but we’re being given a second massive end-time opportunity as a church to arise in this hour and not judge after the flesh but judge after according to the word of God and get God’s heart. I again just have to make the deal in this book. “I’m calling forth for 3 days of prayer and fasting every year during the time of Esther’s time of fasting at the time of Purim for God’s purposes for Israel and the Jewish people worldwide. The hunters are being released right now, who’s going to make a difference? Will you make a difference? Will I make a difference? What is the records of eternity going to record I want you and I to come down on the side of mercy for Israel and for the Jewish people; I want to end up on the side of the blessing, I want you to end up on the side of the blessing and I want you to align yourself with God’s purposes. Would you do that, and would you join us in the greatest global prayer movement where Replacement Theology is replaced with God’s heart?
Sid: For those that aren’t familiar what is Replacement Theology?
Jim: Well it’s where the promises for the Jewish people were taken out of historical context and said that they missed their opportunity and they were replaced saying that all of these Old Testament passages are for the church. Instead of the God that is faithful will remain faithful to His word even when we’re faithless and yet remain true in our promises for the Jewish people.
Sid: Mishpochah I’m speaking to Jim Goll featuring this week his new book “Exodus Cry.” The information that he has obtained it is so concise and yet so complete on the history of the Jewish people the history of anti-Semitism and what to do about it….
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Sid: Many people are crying out to God “I want to be free. I’ve prayed but I’m not free.” My guest this week is Bishop George Bloomer he’s Senior Pastor at Bethel Family Worship Center in Durham, North Carolina. Yesterday we found out he was a drug addict, he was involved in a cult, he was involved in gangs, he ended up in prison, and in prison he found the Lord. But he really abstained from drugs he was set free and shortly thereafter he continued in his life of drugs while preaching. But one day God had mercy and he was sovereignly set free of his cocaine addiction and he hasn’t had it since. There’s a big difference between deliverance and abstinence. Most Christians are moving in their own will power rather than being supernaturally sovereignly set free. Now another problem George that you had was as a child you were molested. What happened?
George: I call that experience 3D because it was in 453 Columbia Street Brooklyn, New York apartment 3D. There was a young lady who had a live in lover a common law husband and they broke up. They would come to our house on the weekends and gamble and play cards and party in the projects, that was the norm for the weekend. I would do errands for her run to the store, go to the laundry mat do things where she’d give me a $1 or so in those days. When he left her she would hug me and pay me and the hugs would get closer and more intense and the kisses would be closer to my mouth. One afternoon she took me into the adult world of sexuality. The thing that is indelibly impressed in mind and feared in mind about the deliverance is that it robbed me from my innocence at age, the latter part of my 11 year to age 12. This went on for about a year or so. She robbed me of my innocence; we used to play a little game in the streets in Brooklyn called Skelzies. Take bottle tops and fill them with asphalt and use them to knock other kid’s tops out of the box. Sort of like a homemade projects ghetto version of marbles. My pockets were filled with the bottle tops that I had won from the other kids. But when that sexual urge kicked in I would stand up and go upstairs for 10-20 minutes be a man and then return right back downstairs sweating and playing Skelzies again. It bothered me as I grew up it made it impossible for me to date and look at younger ladies who were my age. There was a young girl in the projects whose name was Tanya I was really really excited about her and I liked her. I started talking to her and her mother came and put her fist in my chest and pushed me against the wall and told me “No Bloomer was ever going to be involved with her daughters for me to stay away from her daughter!” That stayed with me years and years and years and I remembered at age 32 I was called back to Red Hook to the school that I grew up in, Public School 27. About a thousand people showed up and I’m back on my own soil in my own area to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. Up comes to me this woman who’s asking me if I remember who she is, and I didn’t. When she told me her name she said “I’m Tanya’s mother” immediately I remembered and she told me Tanya’s fate and plight in life and how she was strung out on drugs, and she had crack babies, 3 babies who were born crack addicts. She turned to walk away from me and looked back at me said to “I sure wished you and Tanya would have stayed together.” Immediately I was overwhelmed by the presence of God. The little boy whose head was stuck in my chest, and whose feet was stuck in my ankles, and fingers and hands that was stuck at my wrists began to grow into my physical hands, my physical feet and come up through my neck and choke me as that little boy began to grow in me. I believe that was the day the Lord delivered me. The rejection that I had received from this woman held me hostage, held this little 12 year old boy hostage entrapped inside a 32 year old man with all the sexual problems and addictions that I had dealt with in coming up. It seemed to me like I needed to be released, or affirmed, or accepted by this woman who had rejected me so many years prior to that.
Sid: How did this change your life?
George: Oh completely, completely. I’m married and I have 2 children…
Sid: Were you married at the time?
George: Absolutely. I was married but quiet in my marriage. Not as attentive, not as loving as I should have been. My marriage changed totally. I was able to fully embrace my wife and trust her as a woman and protect and cover my children. Not become overbearing but to protect and to cover them and they’ve grown up to become very very beautiful young ladies ages of 16 and 17. It brought a great deliverance in my life and I speak to those in your listening audience may have been abused and are dealing with secrets and addictions, and rejections as it goes. To find someone that you can confide in and tell them your story, get free from you so that you can live the rest of your life.
Sid: How does someone handle… God developed the human mind in such a way that sometimes when trauma happens to us when we’re young we block it and bury it so deeply we don’t even know what it is. We just know the symptoms of it, we don’t even remember what happened like you remembered what happened to you. What should someone do about that?
George: What you said is absolutely true because for a number of years I didn’t remember, I knew something was wrong.
Sid: Hmm.
George: But subconsciously I didn’t remember but God knew that He was moving me into this vein of ministry. So in order to deal with it He had to bring me back to it. I’ll tell you a quick story, before I went preach for Bishop T.D. Jakes at Manpower he called me and asked me would I be one of the speakers. I said “Yes.” A friend of mine’s son plays opposite to Denzel Washington in a movie entitled “The Hurricane.” I bought the video and began to watch the video because I wanted, you know support his son’s role and I wanted to know about his nephew. I was watching the video at a party that I had given, and when I got to the part in the movie where Denzel Washington was locked in solitary confinement cell. He came apart from himself physically and emotionally I couldn’t handle it. I started crying and sobbing in the middle of the movie was and I got up walked into the hallway. A friend of mine came out and he said “What’s wrong?” I told him “I can’t handle all this I don’t know what’s happening but I can’t handle it.” What God was doing at that moment was reminding me of all of the issues that I hadn’t dealt with and that I needed to get free from it because I was put into a solitary confinement cell and there I would talk to myself constantly and contemplate killing myself and taking myself out laughing and joking with myself over these 4 weeks that I was in the dark in a confinement cell with defecation coming down the walls when they’d flush the commodes from upstairs. God had to help me to deal with that before I could go into that arena and minister to those 36,000 men who had come from all different walks of life to Manpower to be set free.
Sid: Your book, your new book “Weapons for Warriors.” If you don’t mind I’ve subtitled it “Armed and Dangerous.” What will happen when someone reads your book?
George: A number of things when they begin to read the 18 lessons on spiritual warfare and realize that you can be set free and delivered from anything that has happened to you in your past. When they begin to realize that there’s lessons in the book that deals with the sovereignty of God and confrontational lessons. The first lesson is “Satan You’re not a Solvent.” To put Satan in his place and let him know that God is solvent over our lives. The next lesson is “The Plot to Destroy our Destiny” and that’s going to set a lot of people free. There’s a lesson in there that deals with Satan’s fall…
Sid: Most people are missing their destiny because of the snares that the devil has set. Like for instance, if you weren’t set free the last thing in the world you’d be dead right now, I’m sure.
George: I’d be dead. I’d be dead. The heroin would’ve taken me out. A few weeks before I walked down the DeKalb Avenue to go into the church to get set free, I had started contemplating shooting up heroin. I had been talking to people finding getting me information on it because the high of snorting cocaine and smoking it I was looking for a greater high going to another level. It was there that God delivered and set me free before I was going to… my destiny would have been destroyed I would have been dead. But Satan is a defeated foe and the people of God need to know that. When we get know our adversary and know the demonology and government and the devices of Satan and how he uses depression, oppression in order to possess us. Then God will teach us how to cast the devil out. When we understand that we understand the very phases of demonology and what is witchcraft, and religious demons and how to identify and break generational curses. How to reject rejection, and then those…
Sid: I love that title: “Reject rejection.”
George: (Laughing) Those addictions won’t be able to hold us then God will help us to be… to confront the spirit of pride, and embrace the power of worship and realize that He has encamped angels round and about us. That He has truly taken us from the old existence of Adam and placed us in His loving tender care. The new Adam which is Christ Jesus and you will be armed and dangerous with this book.
Sid: But let me ask you this, usually people have to come in person to be ministered. Can someone really be set free just through following what this book says?
George: Absolutely, totally.
Sid: Are you seeing many people set free?
George: Well first I was set free. I was putting together the final edits on my book “Witchcraft in the Pews,” and my family had gone out to the state fair and I was in the house alone by myself. I was doing some writing but I was listening to a tape because…
Sid: Ohh! We’re out of time we’ll tell this story on tomorrow’s broadcast.
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Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Suzy Harbinson. I’m speaking to her at her home in Derry, New Hampshire. Suzy came from a conservative Jewish background but she was a child prodigy, played for the New Hampshire Philharmonic, Violinist. And the worst thing possible happened to her, she fell, she injured her hand. Worse than that the doctors said that if she doesn’t get feeling back in 2 years she’ll never get feeling back, well the feeling did not come back. She had no feeling in that hand and therefore she couldn’t play the violin. She became an angry person, things got progressively worse, she got a divorce from her husband, her house was in foreclosure, she had 2 small children. And a friend of hers… her sister came over and shared the gospel. Suzy said it really didn’t make a whole lot of sense but to get her off her back she repeated the prayer and it was supernatural. Even though it was to get her off of her back you can’t talk to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the name of the Messiah of Israel Yeshua Jesus the anointed without something happening. And then something did happen and she went to another meeting and then a friend of hers had a vision from God tell me about that.
Suzy: My friend Karen came over to my house at the time and I was crying because of my situation with my husband leaving and she started to pray for me. And all I wanted to hear was these good words about “Oh he’ll come back and you know everything’s going to be okay.” Well when Karen was praying for me she stopped and she looked at me and she said “Suzy I had a vision, I had a vision of you standing in God’s throne room and you are playing a violin and He said ‘If you take it out I will restore.’”
Sid: Now wait a second did she know that you even played the violin?
Suzy: She did not know.
Sid: But did she know that you’re hand was useless and medically there was nothing could be done?
Suzy: Yes she did know that that I had injury not so much didn’t get into any detail it never came up in conversation but it was noticeable just the way I held my hand.
Sid: Okay, well tell me what is it she saw in this vision exactly?
Suzy: She saw me standing in God’s throne room and I was playing a violin and He looked at me and said “If you take it out I will restore.” Now only me I would know what he meant by that, and Karen turned to me and my mouth dropped to the floor. And Karen turned to me and she said “Do you play the violin?” And I said “Well, I did about 15 years ago I played the violin and I had put that violin in my closet.” Sid I didn’t touch it, I didn’t look at it it was gone. And this was a divine appointment the Lord was telling me that if I took it out of my closet He would restore my hand.
Sid: Did you believe that?
Suzy: I had no other explanation at that point yes, I knew that that was the Lord speaking through my friend Karen. I knew that God was speaking through her. And I was so surprised, shocked, amazed, I had so many feelings going through me at the time I just had to digest it. But I did come to believe it I was very excited and I just thought “What could He mean?” And there was no way that she could have known that she could have known, no way possible that she could have known that I played.
Sid: So Suzy then you went over a friend’s house who was aware of this prophetic word and what happened?
Suzy: So he encouraged me to come over and bring my violin and “Why don’t you come over and play your violin. You know you need to be obedient and listen to God.” And so I did reluctantly but I did and I brought my violin and a music player a CD player down to the river near his home and I set it up and I started to play my violin. As I was playing I just kept sort of praying saying “God if You’re really there, if You are who You say You are please heal my hand I would love nothing more than to play for You.” And at that moment while I said that and I kept playing I felt this incredible heat on my hand, it was so hot that it felt like someone took a blow torch…
Sid: Now was it just your hand or whole body?
Suzy: No my hand it just.
Sid: Just the hand that had the injury.
Suzy: The hand that had the injury I had a ball of scar tissue in the palm of my hand and it was just supernatural because I never felt anything like this before; my hand just got all tingly and numb and it hurt. And I stopped playing and I heard Jerry my friend up at the top of the house say “You’re not done playing yet, keep playing.” And I just couldn’t play it was just tremendous the heat that I felt in my hand. So then I went back up to his house and I told him what had happened. I didn’t think much more of it afterwards but the next morning when I woke up I started to move my hand around and I felt complete feeling in my left hand.
Sid: What about the scar tissue was it still the same when you looked at it?
Suzy: The scar tissue had dissolved it was incredible I had this big ball of scar tissue where I could barely close my hand to make a fist. And now I was closing and opening my hand; I had mobility I couldn’t believe it I absolutely couldn’t believe it.
Sid: Wait a second medically the doctor said “There’s no way you’ll never get your feelings back,” right?
Suzy: Correct and what do you think the first thing I did? I ran and grabbed a safety-pin (Laughing)
Sid: Ohhh (laughing).
Suzy: And I took that pin and I started to poke my finger and my thumb and I said “Ouch this hurts.” I could feel it I started crying in joy because I knew that God had healed my hand.
Sid: You know even more important than being able to play the violin again which you can, even more important than getting feelings back in your hand which you have is you were pushed over the edge with Jesus.
Suzy: Absolutely. I love Jesus. I have grown so close to Him since I have gotten to know Him and it’s not just because of the healing but the healing was… Jesus knew that’s what it was going to take for me individually He knew that I was a show me girl.
Sid: And also you’re not only a show me girl you’re also Biblical because the Bible says the Jew requires a sign.
Suzy: He gave me a sign (she laughed) one that I will never ever forget.
Sid: Well now you play the violin. When I was with you recently and we did a television show we taped you playing the violin and I want to do a little excerpt from it. But before I even do that I want to set the stage what goes on to people when you play the violin? What type of an anointing do you have from the Lord?
Suzy: I have been told by people while I’ve been playing there have been a couple that have approached me and said that while I am playing the notes that I play just goes right to their spirit and if they’ve had an emotional problem they weep uncontrollably and that they’ve been healed of neck pain, back pain. I’ve been told recently from a minister that’s a friend of my pastor’s that I had the anointing of healing…
Sid: Okay Suzy Harbinson playing the violin which medical doctors have said “Impossible.” Get ready to receive the healing anointing or your spirit and of your soul and of your body.
Suzy Harbinson playing an excerpt on her violin
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SID: Sid Roth here with Shira Sorko-Ram. Shira, you tell me based on your research that American universities are opening their doors to the Islamic agenda. It’s so hard for me to believe. What are they doing in the universities?
SHIRA: Well here’s an example. I saw a video where a pro-Israeli activist got a flag of ISIS and just put it around him, and walked down the steps of one of the California universities, and as he did, the guys and girls going by, they’d say, oh hi, bro, hi. There was nothing against the ISIS flag. And then a few minutes later, he put an Israeli flag against him and he began to get spit at and yelled at, and cursed at. That’s what’s going on in the universities. You see, that’s a target, the universities, they know that in a few years the graduates of these big universities, they’re going to be in Congress, they’re going to be in government. They’re going to be the people who make the decisions for America and so they have really, really targeted.
SID: As a matter of fact I read in the newspaper just yesterday that there’s an ISIS group right outside of Texas in Mexico training to invade the United States and they’re going to let the Mafia type people in Mexico are escorting them into the United States. You told me about the sexual exploitation of ISIS, which is, what is the big attraction of ISIS to these young men? Tell me briefly.
SHIRA: Well in the biographies of Mohammed, he and, he gives instructions to his followers to go out and conquer, conquer land, conquer peoples for Islam. And when you conquer them all the possessions are yours and the men you kill, if they’re heathen, and you can actually rape the wives in front of the men before you kill them, it’s right there. It’s in his instructions.
SID: Now I never heard this in the American press.
SHIRA: No you haven’t.
SID: But where we are right at this moment.
SHIRA: Yeah.
SID: Is Islam winning?
SHIRA: It is winning in that it is increasing at a very rapid pace in America. And because the press as squashed it, nothing about it in the press, because the universities are growing in influence and because of the White House now accepting many advisors from the Muslim Brotherhood, it’s growing. It’s growing very fast and I think, you know, even in these little towns, my son-in-law was in Alabama in a small town. There was a huge, huge center, Muslim center, and he was saying, what could such a big center be for a such a little town? But they’re going up. They’re building all over the United States putting their footprint all over the U.S. and they plan to take over. They really do. I just finished an article on the Shiite belief of the Mahdi, M-A-H-D-I, Mahdi.
SID: This is their version of their Messiah.
SHIRA: The Messiah.
SID: Yeah.
SHIRA: And they are working, Iran today, that is their central focus is to bring the Mahdi back. The Mahdi is going to come when there’s war and when people are really out there with the sword and jihad, and killing the Christians, and killing the rest of the heathen. Then the Mahdi is going to come.
SID: So that may be why they’re pushing so hard to get nuclear bombs.
SHIRA: Oh I believe it. I believe it. Now when the Mahdi comes back, according to the Shiites, Jesus is also going to come back. He’s going to be the Mahdi’s assistant.
SID: Oh that’s nonsense.
SHIRA: And he’s going to be a prophet, and he’s going to come and explain how what people believed about him before as the son of God is a lie. It’s not true. And he’s going to help the Mahdi convert the whole world to Islam. That is the Shiite belief. That’s what’s going on.
SID: Why do you say Israel is the key to understanding the End Times?
SHIRA: Right. Because I have seen from my lifetime when a Christian leader or just layman doesn’t understand God’s plan for Israel, they don’t understand the importance of Israel. They don’t understand that Allah is not God. How do we know? Because God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God is the God of Israel. So if we leave all that out, well we’re open to, well Allah, maybe it’s the same god. See? But Allah hates Israel. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob loves Israel. They’re not the same God. So unless people are tuned into what the Bible says about Israel, Old Testament, New Testament, it says, it says in Romans 11 that, “The day is going to come when Israel returns to God and it’s going to be like life from the death for the whole world.” So Israel has to come to salvation at the same time the great outpouring of God upon the world.
SID: I got news for you. We serve the Living God. I want to concentrate on the good news, and the good news is he’s coming back soon. He loves you and if you take a little step towards him he’s going to run and he’s going to put his arm around you, and you’re going to experience true love, not Hollywood love, but you’re going to experience true love. Just tell God you’re sorry, that’s a good start, for the mistakes you’ve made and say, Yeshua become real to me. Say it with your mouth, I make you the Lord of my life. Come inside. Help me understand you. Read your Bible, and come on, join the happiest people on Earth. Yeshua, Jesus, the King of the Jews. Get with it. Get a little excited for the only thing worth being excited, Jesus.
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