SID: My guest David Jones was an eyewitness of what is referred to as the Day of the Lord. You’ll find out in a few minutes about that. David, as I’ve begun to understand your life, frankly, I don’t know how you survived. How did you get through all that? I mean, at age 11, your father gives you your first drink and then later on you become addicted to drugs and alcohol. And your father was a fighter. Tell me about the time he tried to teach you to fight.
DAVID: Well he was a brawler, not just in the ring, but also in the streets, and so he thought he was doing a great thing by toughing me up. And so he would knock me down and tell me to get up and fight him back, but I would never fight him back. But when I went into night clubs I would mess with anyone, but not my dad. I loved my dad and I respected my dad, but I would never fight him. But he wanted me to be just like him. And I believe, Sid, he thought within himself, he thought he was doing the right thing.
SID: Now at age 13, a week before David’s father died, you knew what was going to happen. Tell me.
DAVID: Yes. The Lord allowed me to dream a dream. Many people don’t put weight on dream, but I do. They’ve always been my warnings. I dreamed he was in a Chrysler convertible and he was just going so fast, and he hit this brick bump and he was killed. I remember running to the car and his head was down and blood was running out of his mouth. And I said, “Daddy, don’t die, Daddy, don’t die.” And he looked at me and he said, “Daddy tried.” And he dropped his head and died. And I said, “Daddy is dead.” And I knew, I had a knowing, Sid, that it was over for my father. At the kitchen table I told my mother, I said, “Daddy’s going to die.” She said, “Don’t say that.” And I said, “I seen it in a dream. He got killed in a car accident.” The next week it happened exactly as I had seen it.
SID: Now David was not a believer in the Messiah. David did not know the Bible. But one night when you were 17, you had a vision, and it’s so interesting to me. This was not just one vision. He then had a second one of the same thing after he became a believer in the Messiah. It’s as if God knew David’s purpose before David knew God. Tell me what happened
DAVID: Well my sister asked me to babysit her children while she wanted to go skating. And I did, and I put the kids to bed. And I had a portable radio, and I was trying to turn it on to get a station. All of a sudden, I heard a woman scream, and it was not like it was behind the house or in front of the house. It was just like in the air. So as I went to go towards the window I stopped and I said, no, no, wait, wait, wait, if I go towards that window I’m going to see something that I don’t want to see. But Sid, I was compelled to go. And so I pulled back the curtains on the second story and I looked down, and I didn’t see anything, and I was like, there’s nothing wrong. And then when my eyes caught the stars in the heavens all of a sudden it was just like a movie screen and blood on the moon appeared. And it’s like someone took an ice pick and poked the moon. Then blood began to ooze out of the moon. And then all the stars in the heaven began to fall all at once. And the sky itself began to roll up as a scroll. And it was happening simultaneously. The moon turned to blood. The stars fell from the heaven. The sky rolled up as a scroll and all of a sudden I see the woman with long black hair. She was beholding what was happening coming upon the earth. And she began to take her fingernails and dig on her face, and scream and holler. Then I seen hundreds of people running, thousands of people running and the horror on their faces, and God allowed me to sense what they were feeling, total helplessness total terror. And all of a sudden the vision disappeared and I fell to the ground, and I was trembling and shaking. I was like, oh my God, what did I see? Sid, I didn’t know anything about visions at the time. And I was like, what should I do. And I said, look at the Bible, get the Bible. And I said, “Please Lord, don’t let me see nothing else, please, please don’t.” I thought something was going to come again. I said, “Please.” And I got the Bible and I just opened it up, and I went to Revelation, the 6th Chapter, beginning at the 12th Verse, and it began to tell about the Day of the Lord and the moon turning to blood. And I said, “Oh God,” and I began to look at that, and I said, “Lord Jesus, look what’s happening. I’ve seen this with my eyes.” All of a sudden, I call my Uncle Ed, he was a preacher, and I said, I told him what happened and he said, “Son, God just showed you a vision.” I said, “You mean to tell me I’m not going crazy?” He said, “No, you’re not going crazy.” He said, “God gave you an open vision. When are you going to say yes to Jesus? When are you going to serve the Lord?” He’s called to be a preacher of the Gospel. And I said, “I don’t know if I can. I don’t know if I can do it.” And from that day I knew within myself there’s something I must do for God.
SID: Hold that thought. I’m going to tell you something. When you hear the second vision that David was part of, it’s what’s called an open vision, your life will never be the same. We’re going to be right back.
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Sid: Now I have my good friend Jonathan Bernis on the phone and most of you are familiar with his TV show” Jewish Voice with Jonathan Bernis.” Jonathan you came out with a concept that frankly I haven’t seen anyone do before. And that is I’ve seen people have scriptures to mediate on God’s word and list them and tell us to mediate rightfully so. But you came out with it on a CD as well as in a book with a special way so that anyone can read Biblical Hebrew instantly. Why the Hebrew, most people don’t understand Hebrew?
Jonathan: Well, Sid I believe that Hebrew has a unique power to it, and I believe it’s connected to Roman’s 11:25. Which I think it’s often misinterpreted; it says “A blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.” And I don’t believe it’s talking about a full number but a fullness coming back to the church; a restoration as Acts talks about; a restoration of all things. Part of this divine restoration and I believe Sid it’s a last days restoration is the revival of the Jewish roots of our faith. And that includes the language of Hebrew which I believe is dynamic and powerful which I believe it began with restoration that began with the 1800’s with Hebrew coming back to a people that had been wandering for almost 2000 years. The Jewish people who are now back in the land and the national language in Israel is the language of Hebrew. I believe that this is a modern day miracle Sid. And I believe that Christians can tap into this amazing restoration.
Sid: Well as far as I’m concerned not only is the language supernatural it was prophesied they’d be speaking it again in the streets of Judah. But it is… there’s something about sound. For instance, I interview Psalmists and some of them literally they have portals to heaven for peace, or for healing, or for various things. There’s something about Hebrew that opens up the heavens. What do you feel about that?
Jonathan: Well I believe that God responds to any language but I believe that there’s a unique anointing on Hebrew and some have suggested Sid, I can’t tell you dogmatically that this is the case, but that when the Lord spoke the world into existence and said “Let there be light” He was speaking this forth in Hebrew as a creative force.” So I believe that Hebrew does have a supernatural dimension to it. There’s frequencies that resonate in the Hebrew how detailed I don’t get into. But I do believe that there is a very unique power to Hebrew; it’s called the language of the prophets the language of the tongue of the prophets. And I believe that it’s part of an end-time restoration.
Sid: Now in Jeremiah 31:23 Jonathan read that verse.
Jonathan: “Thus says the Lord of Hosts the God of Israel, they shall again use this speech in the land of Judah and in its cities when I bring back their captivity.”
Sid: Well, how much more specific can you get? I can just tell you the way it affects me. I love to hear the language of Hebrew. And tell me about how this prophesy of God’s word that once again the words of this supernatural language will be restored in Israel. How did it come about?
Jonathan: Modern restoration of Hebrew goes back to the latter part of the 19 century. Actually the middle part; the 1860’s and 70’s thought a man that God called to move back to Israel before it was restored as the nation of Israel. A man called Eleazar Ben Yehudah and he was responsible for the restoration of the Hebrew language. He spent the majority of his life developing ancient Hebrew into a modern spoken language that could be used by a people because he was confident that one day the Jewish people would be restored back to the land. And it came to past Sid in 1948; Israel supernaturally in a day was restored back to the Jewish people; the birth of the modern birth of the state of Israel. And then 1967 with Jerusalem coming back into Jewish hands; I think this was the singular greatest event in the last century to signal the near return of Jesus to this world.
Sid: And you know what’s so amazing about our God is here He said that the Jewish people would be scattered to the four corners of the earth. He prophesied they’d be maintained as a distinct people. He prophesied a land would be born in a day, and He prophesied from the four corners of the earth we would return but when we returned we returned we spoke the language of whatever country we were scattered to. So if Eleazar Ben Yehudah had not restored modern Hebrew how could be communicate with one another?
Jonathan: Yeah it was a miracle. Sid there was 3 restorations just to continue on this that are absolutely supernatural. One is the restoration of the Jewish people scattered to the nations of the world back to their land after almost 2000 years. There was only a remnant of Jewish people living in Israel after the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD. We were scattered to the remote parts of the earth. But since 1948 God has gathered us back as a people and there’s more Jewish people living in Israel today. That little sliver of land the size of New Jersey than any other place in the world including America. Secondly He’s restoring our faith. Jewish people are coming to faith in the God of Israel through the Messiah. Eyes are being opened; there’s more Jewish people that believe in Jesus today than any time since the first century, then third restoration of the modern language. They’re all tied together; their all supernatural and we’re experiencing this before our very eyes Bible prophesy being fulfilled.
Sid: Now tell me about this beautiful book and CD that’s included titled “Confessing the Hebrew Scriptures.”
Jonathan: Okay Sid I have to give credit where credit is due and you played a role in this believe it or not. A number of years ago you confessed healing scriptures and put them to music. And I listened to those tapes and I never knew if they ever came out in CD’s it was a while ago. They were on cassette tapes and I sent those to friends and it was soothing for the soul; faith came alive for healing and health through the confession of God’s Word. I’m a big believer in confessing the word of God; faith is built as we confess the word of God. But then I coupled that with a method that I had learned growing up in synagogue and that is the idea of transliteration. Most Jewish people can’t read the Hebrew and so our prayer books transliterate the Hebrew into English phonetic English to sound out the Hebrew so then we can follow along using the phonetics. Now I learned to read Hebrew the transliteration was kind of a cheat sheet that we could use to speak out the prayers in synagogue. What I’ve done is I’ve taken that method that transliteration…
Sid: Now that was done because so many Jews relocated to the four corners of the earth as God prophesied and they did not know how to speak Hebrew after several generations. So it had to be started a system like this and it’s actually a supernatural way for any one that never went to Bible School of any sort, or a language school of any sort to be speaking the Biblical language.
Jonathan: That’s right Sid in 5 minutes you can sit down put the CD on and you can be speaking in Hebrew without any Hebrew background or training or education whatsoever. You can actually speak these scriptures out following along in the Hebrew and using the transliteration. And you can be speaking forth confessing the Hebrew scriptures related to the Name of God Jehovah Shalom; or Adonai Shalom the Lord our peace; the Lord our completion.
Sid: Now you have scriptures about the word shalom peace but most people think of that’s what it means peace. But it means so much more explain.
Jonathan: Well, shalom is one of the greatest words in the Hebrew language; it means much more than just peace. Although it does bring with it a supernatural peace. But it also means wellbeing; it means wholeness. And the greatest translation I think of shalom is completion; to bring to completion. When we’re exhorted in Psalm 122:6 “To pray for the peace, the shalom, of Jerusalem.” In fact God is asking us to pray for His plan and purpose to be brought to completion, fulness.
Sid: So that’s why you know many people say now “Why did God pick only one city in the whole world that we’re admonished to pray for?” And that’s Psalm 122:6 “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.” Then He makes a promise connected with it. “They shall prosper” and the word prosper in the Hebrew (talk about peace) means heart peace. You shall have heart peace; because you’re praying for the completion of everything that God has prophesied so Jesus can come back and rule this earth. We certainly need something better than Democrats or Republicans. (Laughing)
Jonathan: (Laughing) We sure do Sid; and something really exciting is that first pray for the shalom of peace of Jerusalem they shall prosper that love thee. Which means there’s a promise of property connected to that is also the word shalom. Pray for the shalom of Jerusalem of Israel and God will shalom you.” He’ll prosper you back; He’ll give you peace, He’ll give you wholeness. He’ll complete the work He began in you. It’s just amazing as you sow that prayer into Israel He pours it back into us. That word is shalom.
Sid: Now this brand new but we’ve already field tested this and people are listening to this in the Hebrew because the CD has beautiful relaxing music and then you hear the promise in Hebrew; then you hear the promise in English. And you can also because it’s transliterated and the most beautiful pictures in this book. And it’s really a book that you’d be proud to put on a coffee table; what a conversation piece you’re going to have in your home. So as people do this at night they get totally relaxed and I believe as you’ve just pointed out the word shalom is completeness and all the promises of God… it’s called “The Lord Is Peace.
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SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Perry Stone. And Perry, many Christians say, I don’t know about studying those feasts because my Bible says I’m no longer under the Law. What would you say to them?
PERRY: You know, we talked about this before, how in the Torah, the Five Books of Moses, you know, you have what’s called the Law of God: ceremonial, sacrificial and the moral law. Sacrificial laws were all the sacrifices, the lambs, the bulls, the rams, the pigeons. That is Christ fulfilled the law. He became the final sacrifice. So there’s no more sacrifices as far as animals. So that’s what the New Testament is talking about. Now when we talk about the Law of God when it comes to, let’s say, the moral law, that’s God’s character. That’s how God wants His people to live and have these laws in the Torah that are also, by the way, found in the New Testament. I can show you in the New Testament, you don’t kill, you honor your father and mother, you don’t commit adultery and fornication. These scriptures that we call the Commandments are still, but here’s the key. In the New Covenant, they operate off of love, meaning that God says to you, if you love your neighbor as yourself you’re not going to steal, you’re going to commit adultery, you’re not going covet. If you love God with all your heart you’re going to obey those commandments of worshiping God, keeping the Sabbath day to worship Him and so on, not taking His name in vain. So the fact is the New Covenant, the only change we have is we operate off of love, meaning if you love people who love God, we’re going to follow His Word. It’s going to be an automatic thing because He’s changed our heart to follow His commandments and His Word.
SID: Now you have found such amazing nuggets in the only book, hear me, the only Bible the first church had was we call the Old Testament, and from that Bible, they were functioning really, really well. But we’re talking about the blood moon, and it gives us an insight into the timing of what’s happening on Planet Earth.
PERRY: Well several years ago, that was in the 1990s, I began to study the verses, very complicated in the sense of how you interpret it. “The sun should be dark and the moon to blood before the terrible day of the Lord.” In the 1960s, when they had the moon landing, a woman from my dad’s church says, that’s the prophecy fulfillment. The Russians are going to go to the moon, the American’s are going to go to the moon, they’re going to kill each other and it’s going to be, I don’t know if you ever heard that theory. And I thought, how are they going to kill each other? When you swing a sword, you have to swing it so slow, the guy can dodge it. Or if you shoot a bomb, and I was saying to myself, this doesn’t make sense. What I did, I studied it from a rabbinical perspective. Now in the rabbinical perspective, lunar eclipses and solar eclipses, the solar eclipse, when the moon looks orange or looks like blood, those are signs. For example, lunar eclipse is not, here’s the thing you got to understand. We’re not just making this up. Rabbis have actually traced this down for hundreds of years and they’ve noticed that during certain solar eclipses, things follow in the world. For example, earthquakes often follow, famines often follow, or global wars often follow. With Jews, they discovered that when a moon turns to blood, if it happens on a major feast day, here’s the key, it’s not just what we call the moon turning into blood or a lunar eclipse, it’s when it happens on a feast day, through history, something significant happens somewhere within 12 months to 48 months to the Jewish people. You can, you’ve had, for example, you’ve had a series of lunar eclipses that have happened in the spring feasts and the fall feasts on specific feast days about seven times throughout history. And every time it relates either to the city of Jerusalem, it relates to the time Columbus discovered America, it relates to a time, a prophetic time.
SID: Very significant time.
PERRY: Very significant. And I wanted to write this time to get it exact for those of you that are watching. The next ones that are coming up that are feast days will be the first day of Passover, April 15, 2014, the first day of Tabernacles, October 8, 2014. This is a full lunar eclipse. Then the first day of Passover, April 4, 2015, the first day of Tabernacles, September 28, 2015. Now from, again, a rabbinical perspective of all of the Jewish people watching this, have rabbis that can verify this, the blood moons are a bad sign for Israel. They’re considered an omen of trouble for Israel. Now you cannot look at these and say what’s going to happen because none of us know. I can’t do that. But we do know that on feast days, as a matter fact, it happens, you know, in January and February. But when it falls specifically on a feast day, something significant happens either with the Jewish people or Israel, and the sad thing is it’s not always good. So that is when the Book of Joel and the Book of Acts, Joel 2 and Acts 2 says, “The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the great terrible day of the Lord,” most scholars interpret the great terrible day of the Lord being the days of tribulation. So these are blood moon events that happened before the tribulation period. And of course, we’re not in the tribulation period yet, according to what I see, because you know, prophetically.
SID: Well I see this 80,000 hours of research understanding the Hebraic roots. You see, it didn’t have to be explained in the New Covenant, in the New Testament and in the Old Testament. Everyone understood these things. Perry, would you understand where we are prophetically? What’s going on prophetically if you had never studied the Hebraic roots?
PERRY: It’s totally impossible. It’s impossible.
SID: Okay. Hold that thought. We’ll be right back.
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Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be free of generational curses. You see the Messiah said “I’ve come to set the captives free.” There are many people that genuinely have had an encounter with the Lord and yet there are areas of their life that they are not free in. I have on the telephone Lori Strong. Lori there are many that would say “What is this business about talking about curses? I mean once you’re born again Jesus became a curse for you so you don’t have to bare the penalty of the curse and it’s finished you don’t have to dredge up something your mother or your grandfather or your great grandfather did think was passed on because it was finished when you said that prayer with Billy.” What would you say?
Lori: Well why then are you functioning as if He didn’t die on the cross? When I wrote the book God really showed me that so many people know that He died on the cross and that He did take those curses for us then why are we still living as if he didn’t die?
Sid: I have read your book and the notes tell me; actually I read the notes and I read a good portion of the book. The notes tell me that you have picked 20 specific curses; explained what they are and show people how to they can walk in the blessings; give the scriptures involved and give an actual prayer to break the curse, then examples of people that have had victories in those areas. Obviously there are many curses; why did you pick 20?
Lori: Well I had 40 written down to write about and the Lord really directed me each step of the way the certain curses that He I believed that He believed to whoever would read the book and hear about the book would really need to deal with those primarily first before we get to the next 20 which may be in the next book. (Laughing)
Sid: Well let me read what in your opinion are some of the most important ones; lack of faith and trust. You know most people don’t think in terms of that being a curse. Fear of man; problems in marriage; lack of communication; lack of affection; adultery; divorce; parent-child relationships; disrespect; making bad choices; addictions of all kinds, poverty; sickness; anger. Now Lori there are so many that we can deal with but let’s start out with just the basics. Explain what is a generational curse, and what does the word curse mean and what does the word blessing mean?
Lori: Okay, first of all a generational curse which is described it’s taught a lot about in the word of God of course is a curse that is passed down from maybe just one generation but usually in the Bible it says that the curse can be from your 3rd to 4th generation. And so it’s not a blessing it’s a curse so it’s the opposite of blessing. It’s anything that’s going to hinder you from walking completely free from any bondage. And it’s something that’s passed down from generations even hour grandparents or your great-grandparents who you might never even know about. Even an Aunt or Uncle that you have never had met.
Sid: By the way that’s an interesting point, we know from the Bible that what you’re saying is true but I can’t go beyond my grandparents and tell you anything about the ancestors so if I don’t know it can I break it?
Lori: You can and I think that’s one of the main points that I want to get across in the book is that just by praying those prayers and believing in faith that you don’t have that curse anymore if you had it or didn’t have it you are covered. And that’s what the word of God does it covers us. So if we use the word of God and we pray that word of God back to the Lord then we will be healed or delivered from those curses whether they were in our lives or not, so then you’re just covered. So I suggest to the reader when they read the book to not just go the chapters that might seem like they affect our…
Sid: And I might add that’s what I started to do until I read that in your book; I really see the wisdom in what you’re saying. For instance I know areas that you talk about that I really wanted to read on but I felt that I was supposed to go page by page. It’s almost like I want to be totally clean and even if I’m not aware of something there could be some vestiges there and it’s just part of me getting totally clean.
Lori: Amen and for every believer it should be that way. We should want to be clean in every area.
Sid: Listen I don’t want anything that’s going to interfere with me fulfilling the destiny God’s put me on earth for; nothing.
Lori: That’s right, that’s right amen and you know what that’s my heart I don’t want to see and I know that’s God’s heart the same He doesn’t want any believer to function under curses anymore. He wants you to be delivered; He has a heart; He’s so grieved when He sees His believers still functioning under lack or sickness because He died for that. So why are we still functioning that way; so I believe His desire, as mine is also, that we use the word of God as it was designed to be used. It’s not designed to be sitting on a coffee table with dust on it.
Sid: Just out of curiosity I want to ask you how this plays out in your life, you have by today’s standards a fairly large family four children and one on the way. How do your children handle it when symptoms of sickness try to attach themselves upon them?
Lori: Well we’ve really been blessed to have children of faith and they’re being raised up in a home that speaks of faith all the time. So if they get parents might call a little “owie” usually the parent might kiss the owie. We just have our children come over to us and we pray for them and we lay hands on them like the Bible says we have authority to do. We pray for them in Jesus Name and they walk away healed you know. I wish as adults we could do it that easily and not look at the symptoms; they walk away healed. And just recently our children have started praying for each other instead of just running to mommy and daddy they just lay hands on each other when they get hurt. And they pray for each other and that’s just all they know because they’re young and that’s just all they’ve been raised up. And so it’s just such a blessing to watch that; I wish I had that when I was a child but…
Sid: Me too! I was 30 when I became a believer in the Messiah. Lori, one of the things that intrigues me so much is the ministry that you have for people in prison. Moms and dads have to literally be educated Biblically on how to be parents. But in prison you said you’ve bumped into combinations of mothers and daughters in prison at the same time. I mean that’s as obviously a curse as you can possible see.
Lori: Right, right and that you know that has devastated me throughout the years of our ministry. When I see a mom and a daughter in prison at the same time and that to me that’s the ultimate curse and it’s the most obvious curse I should say because all of our curses are pretty much. So sin is sin and you know for me though it is devastating to me though that mother would lead a child in that way because “We’re supposed to train up our child in the way that they should go” which is according to the word. And a lot of these moms and dads don’t have a clue of how to raise these children because no one ever taught them.
Sid: Well the other thing is that you point out in your book and that is most people are aware of in prison populations many of them are single parent. And that single parent ends up in prison imagine what’s happening to the children.
Lori: Yes and that’s the largest part of our ministry is working with the children; because my heart goes out to them. I know God’s heart is with the children and we might not have a great influence on the parents because they have a choice when they get out to stay rooted and grounded in the ministry or not. But the children no matter what we need to be ministering to them all of the time even after mom and dad gets out to be the consistent person in their life. And then lead them down a different path which is breaking that generational curse of crime and drugs and those other things that are attached. And leading them on a new vision that they can have a vision for their lives that doesn’t include those things. Because they believe that they have to do what their parents did because children live what they learn.
Sid: So the parents in prison they believe they’re going to be in prison; if their parents are drug addicts they believe that they’re going to be drug addicts. If their parents don’t respect their parents it just passes on. In fact you have a chapter on that, in fact talk a little bit about which is something that affected you this disrespect. How do you get rid of it? Let’s suppose you have children that disrespect you and you know that you did it to your parents; what would you advise someone?
Lori: Well we’ve had to practice that in our own home because I’ve watched not only my daughter start disrespecting her dad but also and we cut that off at the core because I recognized it right away. She sounded just like I did as a child but as soon as I heard that tone in her voice we stopped it right there and we pray. And we talk about what the word of God says; it says “Honor your parents in the Lord for this is right and you will live long life.” And my daughter whose 12 just the other day said that to my son. She said that to my four year old she said “Don’t you want to live long, you’ve got to honor mommy and daddy.” And so we just pray the word back even if you have to do it more than once that’s okay to keep doing it because you don’t want any of those seeds to be planted. And the first time I recognized it outside of our immediate family was in my sister’s home. I was sitting there one day and they live a distance from us and we were visiting. I heard my niece disrespect her dad and that was just… my mouth hung open for a moment realizing she sounded just like me too when I was a kid but nobody stopped her from saying that to her dad not only didn’t her dad stand up for himself like my dad didn’t but her mom didn’t say anything. And that’s my sister; and so again it was it’s like a duplication of how our home was how their home was. But I believe it gets even worse as it gets passed down.
Sid: Well you know I’m just looking at all of these arenas that you talk about especially marital problems. Most people don’t think in terms that these are curses but what is it 1 out to 2 in the church are having divorce.
Lori: Yeah, which is not; it’s so grieving to God because He hates divorce he says that in His word.
Sid: But you know what I’m speaking to someone right now you can cut it; you can stop it right now if you understand what’s going on in the invisible world and get at the roots of it and get free. There are so many of these areas and this book as I explained to you on yesterday’s broadcast. That it just takes you step by step; identifies the curse; tells you the blessings, the scriptures to use for the blessings rather than having the curse. Then the prayer is literally written out for you an example to encourage you. And there’s so many areas not just marriage and children, but making bad choices and addictions and lack of faith and poverty.
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Sid: My special guest is Fred Stone; many of you are familiar with his son Petty Stone, Jr. but Fred Stone had an encounter with the power of God and moves in the miraculous. And has secrets to tell us; when I talk to Fred Stone last he told me a secret; a hidden secret that to a degree I understood but I can’t say I really did. And in a little bit we’ll get to that. But on yesterday’s broadcast I started talking to you about 1948 when you were a heathen and you’re brother got saved and he dragged you off to a meeting because revival had broken out in your area and you saw miracles unbelievable. But tell me the circumstances of how you became a believer.
Fred: Well, Sid when I attended this revival and I met there was a lady preacher by the name of Mildred Collins. And it was in English, West Virginia and I told my brother I said “Morgan, if you come back to talk to me I’m going to leave, I’m going to walk out of the church; don’t do that.” So he said “Well, I’ll not; I’ll try not.” But during the lady preached a simple salvation message and gave an altar call and asked everyone to stand. She was inviting people to accept Jesus Christ. And out of her mouth brother, now she said. Now I want to tell you what I heard. I heard it twice but she said “She didn’t say it.” She did make a statement about eternity but she didn’t call my name. But I heard this come out of Mildred Collins mouth. She said “Fred, if you should die at midnight tonight where would you spend your eternity?” Well, I was amazed because I had never met the woman; I had never been introduced to her. I had no knowledge of who she was; didn’t even know that she was preaching. So in a about a minute or I say a minute or 2 minutes again out of her mouth came the words, “Fred, if you should die at midnight tonight where would you spend your eternity?” Well, this was really I didn’t know at the time was a supernatural movement of God that seemed to flow out of her mouth. Now she was talking about eternity and people giving their life to God; but she didn’t call anybody’s name Fred. Because I talked to her later about it; but that shook me up and convicted me. And when my brother Morgan came back and he came twice and when he came the second time I stepped out and went to the front and they knelt at the altar and the old Saints of God Holy Ghost filled men and woman were speaking in supernatural tongues and praising God and laying hands on me. And God delivered me from everything brother, every spirit that was there. I had a spirit to shoot at my brother, the one that won me to God; I started to kill him one time I was so mad at him. And now the love of God was there; all that hate and stuff was just instantly taken out of my life and a great love for my brother. He and I are just great people; we’re just great friends today. And God just changed me in every way in the world.
Sid: You know Fred we have what are called Seeker Sensitive Churches in America. They’re the hottest thing in America and then even what are called Charismatic or Pentecostal Churches are moving more towards Seeker Sensitive. Than what you’ve described; what you’ve described is wonderful. Where a man comes forward because he’s supernaturally God calls him by name. You radically get saved; he radically gets delivered. He radically gets filled with the Holy Spirit. Now I don’t know if you know this or not but a major Charismatic denomination just came out with their statistics that almost a 1/3 of their members don’t even speak in unknown tongues. They shouldn’t call themselves Charismatic anymore.
Fred: Yes, well I’ve heard of that Sid too. There are Pentecostal churches where the majority of the people do not have the baptism of the Holy Ghost. They do not have the supernatural gift from God. Now I don’t understand that unless maybe the clergy are laying back and working more into a social gospel and away from the supernatural gospel of Christ. But Sid I would like to say to your radio audience that the gospel is the power of God unto salvation to those that believe to the Jew and to the Gentile. And that the gospel is more than socialism. The gospel is far beyond anything that most people know anything about. It has power whether it’s preached or read on a personal basis or the pulpit. The gospel will bring miraculous results if a person preaches it and listeners will believe it. It will bring miracles into their life.
Sid: And you know our peanut brain says “Well, the people we talk to they won’t even believe what we say. But our job is not to decide what they’re going to believe; our job is to proclaim. God’s job is to back it up.
Fred: Yes.
Sid: Now, let me tell you something that happened last time we met. Perry Stone and his Dad flew into my office to do some television work with me and when…I don’t even know if you meant to say this but just by talking with you you were talking you pray in unknown tongues all the time. And I grabbed a hold of that and this is what I’ve been doing since I’ve met you. Wherever I go I pray in tongues, people can’t hear me doing it but this was the revelation I had. In the Bible it says “Paul prayed in tongues more than any man. It also says, he prayed without ceasing. I believe that Paul the apostle wherever he went, what ever he was doing, he was driving his car, he was working, he was at a social event. He was praying in unknown tongues under his breath. And I have to tell you I believe I am moving miles in the spirit as a result of this.
Fred: Yes, I believe that too Sid. Let me bring something up that might be edifying to your audience here is this; see see some ministry has taken scripture out of it’s context and out it’s original meaning and not search for a deeper meaning. And when Paul said that “He would rather speak five words with his understanding; then 10,000 words in an unknown tongue.” They take that and they rule supernatural tongues out. But that’s not what Paul was saying, he was not talking about his personal prayer life at all. He was talking about ministering publicly in a sanctuary where people were there to believe and receive. There’s two different things Paul was dealing with there. And I believe that the more a person prays in the Spirit. You know when Paul said “If there be no interpreter let the speaker in tongues speak to himself and to God.” You don’t quit speaking in tongues in the sanctuary; you just lower your voice and quiet your voice down where you’re speaking it’s you and God speaking in a quiet tongue. So you’re right on target there; that’s exactly what you do and you continue to minister in supernatural tongues. This is what pulls the blessing and the supernatural power of God into our life and into the flow of the Spirit in the church.
Sid: Now you had a relative by the name of Rufus was it Delford?
Fred: Yes.
Sid: And how was he related to you?
Fred: He was an uncle.
Sid: Okay, Uncle Rufus he had an amazing healing but what is even more amazing than that then was the ministry that God gave him. But tell me about what happened to Uncle Rufus.
Fred: Alright, I’ll try to be brief Sid as I can. He had a brain tumor and was pronounced incurable. They sent him to John Hopkins about 1932 in Baltimore. They told him after all of the examinations that the very best they could hope for would be a wheelchair patient. And the worse scenario would be he would be paralyzed the rest of his life. Couldn’t have no control over bodily functions and so on. So he asked for his clothes and he dressed and he went back to West Virginia to the farm in Berkeley, West Virginia. And brother he was out in the field he was disabled he couldn’t even work. There was 4 or 5 men out working the corn fields and all. And Grandma Dumford asked him to take a bucket and a hoe and dig a bucket of potatoes for supper. They were feeding about 8 or 10 adults besides children. He’s praying and seeking God an d here’s his own words out of his own mouth. He said “God, I don’t know whether you’re out there or not; I don’t know whether there is a God.” But he said “If there is a God anywhere and You can hear prayer if You can heal me I don’t want to leave my wife and 2 children; and if You’ll heal me I’ll live for You the rest of my life.” Well, as he was praying the prayer the power of God the Holy Ghost struck him down; hit him in the top of his head. He fell on his back starting shaking and quivering on the power of God and instantly baptized with the Holy Ghost; began to speak in other tongues. God gave him the entire 16th chapter of St. Mark read like ABC in his mind.
Sid: Wait a second; He gave him the 16th Chapter. Had he memorized it; had he read it before?
Fred: No, he knew nothing about the Bible.
Sid: Well, as I understand it he didn’t even know how to read.
Fred: Well, he went to school brother but they would only let him go to school for 2 or 3 months in the winter. When it got so you could work the fields the parents took him out. So he probably didn’t have more than a first or second grade education.
Sid: So, how did he know this Chapter of Mark?
Fred: Well, the Holy Ghost quoted it to him. And when he…and then the Lord told him said “I’m giving you the gift of divers kinds of tongues; when you arise and stand to your feet you will be able to witness and preach and testify to every nation, nationality of man that I send you to.
Sid: Fred, we’re out of time we’ll pick up right here on tomorrows. And I mean you don’t know what miracles are until you find out about what Uncle Rufus was able to do.
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