Sid: I’ve been talking to David Martin this week and we’re covering his brand new series called “How to Be Naturally Supernatural.” It’s 20 foundational devotions; a 100 key points that God Himself has made clear to David that he has field tested that allow him to do the same works that Jesus has done and even greater. And people that are taking this series and taking these devotions; I mean I can’t think of a better way to start every one of your days. I mean with me I just pop it into my car as I get going but you may put it as you’re having coffee in the morning in your CD player and just put it in and listen to it and say the scriptures out loud; say the key points out loud and hear the stories. For instance David let’s go to Key Number 3 a word that people don’t like to hear much humility.
David: (Laughing) Well humility is really a foundation that is so critically important because…
Sid: You know what I think it’s the missing ingredient from the Church that we call Christianity today I don’t see it existing; I see most Christians being “What’s in it for me, me first.” And they’re missing the glory of God that they could be walking in; they’re missing their destiny. Tell me a little bit more about humility.
David: Well God really taught this to me by an open vision in 1983; I was on a platform of a church part of a ministry team and literally the ceiling the roof of the church disappeared. I thought at first a tornado come through I never had an open vision before and we’re new to Oklahoma and lots of tornadoes here. But anyway, I didn’t know what was happening I was seeing blue sky and it dawned on me well it can’t be a tornado I’m looking at blue sky. But anyway as soon as I quieted down to the incredibleness of the open vision God put a gigantic sphere of light in the middle of this blue sky and He said to me “This is the throne-room of grace.” It was symbolic of the throne-room of grace and literally coming from that sphere of glory touching about 10% of the people of the congregation was a beam of light. And each beam of light was ministering to people like a laser beam but it was… one person was receiving a healing; another person a financial miracle; another person was receiving a restoration each one was different. And I said “God what are You showing me?” He said “I’m ministering to those that are ministering to Me, those that are worshiping Me, those that are worshiping Me in Spirit and in Truth.” And I looked up to see what I was getting and Sid it was one of the most horrible days of my life because there was nothing there.
Sid: Hm.
David: And I said “God, “Where’s mine?” He said “You’re not worshiping Me in Spirit and Truth.”
Sid: You know most people that go to a congregation are there as spectators; they’re thinking their laundry list even during worship, or they’re worshiping but they’re not even paying attention to the words it’s the beat, it’s the music, but they’re heart isn’t focused on the Lord. What you’re saying to me is that those that worship Him in Spirit in truth are open to this glory.
David: Well, that is a major part of it but what He showed me is in my own personal life I have left the very good high paying job to come to Oklahoma to go to Bible School; I was serving in a local church; I was leading a Bible Study. I was very active in ministry but what God said to me is “That is not worship, that is religious service and I commend you for that.” But what He said to me He took me to a Romans 12 where it says “I beseech you brethren by the mercies of God present your bodies a living sacrifice holy acceptable unto Me which is your reasonable service.” Well, that’s what King James says, but literally God taught me my first Greek word by this vision and He said that “Really the newer translations better translates that word Ekos to “Spiritual service of worship”; and living sacrifices are those people that wake up in the morning with the recognition they need Me; they cannot even have another day unless I give it to them. “A living sacrifice, holy, respect’s My Word and honors My Word and they live according to My Word and they know they need Me; they need my instruction; they need to follow My instruction and because of that they’re humbling themselves they are literally positioning themselves into a place of needing Me as opposed to living in their own self ability.” And He showed me Sid He showed me 2 incredible visions that followed this. First was the picture of a car battery when you have a positive terminal and a negative terminal opposed and when you cross those 2 with the wire of those sparks. And essentially you have all the power on one side and on the positive side that once they get into the negative side it’s a picture of polarity and unseen energy called electricity. And then He showed me a picture of 2 magnets; 2 stick magnets also popularized positive one side and negative on the other side. Put 2 positives together and they repel; 2 negatives they repel; put a positive and a negative together where they attract together by an unseen force called the magnetism. God said “My Spirit realm is the same thing; you can’t see it I am the positive polarity and you are the negative if you’re walking in humility; and when you walk there is that negative not in behavior or mindset per say but in need of me your humbling yourself under My mighty hand I pour out my Spirit; literally I’m attracted to you.” And what God showed me is this is what I was seeing is the glory and the light of God that was coming and touching those people that were living sacrifices holy and doing this level of worship unto God.
Sid: Now Point Number 4 can save the life of those that are listening to us; it’s knowledge. Tell me about how knowledge saved your life.
David: Well, Key Point Number 4 Knowledge as we put it in our list here I seek to know His truth every day hiding His truth in my heart that I will not sin against Him. When you learn God’s way you learn God’s behavior you know His ability by hiding it into your heart you know your authority and literally out of the abundance of heart the mouth is going to speak. My wife and our children were in a State park and we were driving out of the part and a tornado came upon us and literally two trees right in front of us hundred foot trees took off. About 8 or 10 trees along side of us laid down because we were actually in this killer tornado; took other people’s lives. I went to try to steer the van control the van Sid we off of the ground. We were literally caught.
Sid: I can’t think of a scarier thing; not just you but you and your family in the van caught up in the air. You see trees uprooted all around you this killer tornado; what do you do?
David: (Laughing) Well, you find out at that moment what’s in your heart and there was no opportunity per sea to pray a good prayer you know to take authority but literally out of the abundance of heart the Bible says the mouth speaks. And because I hide the word in my heart like we’re helping people do with this program; hiding the word in their heart. Literally all that came out of my heart was the Name Jesus. But at the Name of Jesus the Bible says “Every knee must bow; every name named in Heaven Earth and under the earth.” So in this case it was a tornado; when I said “Jesus” the tornado had to bow it’s knee and it literally dropped our van back onto the ground and we drove right out of it in safety.
Sid: Well were literally coming into a time where the rubber meets the road and we’re coming into a time in which you have to make up your mind “Are you going to be fulfilling your destiny or are you going to be just like everyone else?” Tell me briefly about this daily devotion “The Twenty Keys.”
David: Well essentially Sid we encourage every day to do the devotion which is based on one of the key points. And in an average of 6 actually 7 minutes we, I, we, me and the Holy Ghost expound upon the principal and the precept of the key point. The word comes alive and it’s highly motivational, very instructional and people believe motivated, encouraged and built up. Then we encourage them to go through and play or read the 100 keys points in totality; we provide them with a card that has the scriptures that bring forth that particular key point that they can mediate on it; we encourage them to mediate on this one precept and principal every day and when they do they absolutely; I absolutely guarantee it Sid it will transform their life from the inside out.
Sid: Well you’re getting so many testimonies of people and I believe it has to do with the anointing you received all the way back in Africa that “Shining One Anointing” that you received in Rwanda and everything you teach has the glory. But people are reporting that the glory of God is coming on them just every morning as they’re doing these devotionals. Tell me about these reports.
David: There are so many Sid; I get one almost or multiples every day. One comes to my mind a lady in Milwaukee came up to me and she said “What’s in those key points.” And I said “It’s the Word.” She said “Oh, no no there has to be something else,” I said “No it’s just the Word. And she said “Well every time I do them I feel this surge of anointing and power there has to be something subliminal; there has to be something you’re putting in the background there that I can’t see; right.” I said “No, it is the word,” but the word is powerful and when you hear the word and you speak the word and you get the word into your heart and it’s got an incredible life changing ability.
Sid: Well, on tomorrows broadcast I want you to talk about my favorite point; now my wife’s favorite point is humility and you can’t move into key number 5 unless you have humility. But my favorite point is compassion; this has been my prayer for many many years to operate because one of the things I noticed David is it said “That Jesus had compassion before He prayed for the sick.” Whoops our time is up.
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Sid: We want everyone everywhere to just bask in this peace package by Julie True. Because we had her into our It’s Supernatural Television Show and her entire worship team and we had people soaking. And we merged the great anointing in It’s Supernatural television studio with a very unique anointing on Julie True. And we said “Julie I just want you to do soaking worship for us because people need to know how to worship God and spontaneous songs” Julie I know for someone like yourself that whatever your currently singing a lot is what God wants people to know. What is going on? What are you telling people through your worship these days?
Julie: Well, that’s true I go through different seasons where it seems like there’s a focus on certain places in our hearts. And right now where I’ve been seeing a lot is in the holiness of God. You know the holiness of His presence and the descriptions of Him seated in Heaven on His throne. And the angels saying “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty who was and is and is to come.” And I feel like there’s like a renewal of honor for God and sort of that awe of God.
Sid: And you know what we go to extremes; there was that for a season maybe about 40 years ago and then we moved to grace without repentance type of message. But I believe that the closer that we get to the return of Messiah the more that we will be as you said in awe of the holiness of God.
Julie: Yes.
Sid: Sing something that comes to you about the holiness of God
Julie: Well, the first thing that comes to my mind is the song I wrote out of those descriptive passages actually. One of the verses says (Julie singing “God Almighty glorious beauty, clothed in light You shine before me. All that was and ever will be Lord. I worship; Lord I worship; Lord I worship You.
Sid: Boy that peace is so amazing that God has actually equipped your voice to get into that supernaturally heavenly presentation of peace. Tell me some amazing things are happening when people soak to your music. Tell me what happens to Patrick when he sleeps with your music.
Julie: Well, he says he always plays my music when he sleeps and that sometimes when he wakes up God’s presence is so strong that he can’t move. And that he’s been doing this for a couple years. So he is a minister and he had hosted a conference recently and my music was playing and there was a presence of the Lord he said that covered every inch of his body from head to toe. He later started realizing that he had received an entire new anointing and was able to impart that to the people. And people were being healed without anybody laying hands on them. And that he felt in his own ministry that he went to another level of authority and so that was really encouraging.
Sid: Well, so many people are getting healed because as you’ve explained it they get healed in their inner heart from their wounds; they forgive people. And then the healing anointing it’s easy for them to receive it. Tell me about Isabel.
Julie: Isabel had been having bad allergies and it had gone on for five days and she would have to lie down because she was so dizzy and short of breath. She had ordered my CD’s from after watching your show and she said “Every time that she would listen to my music she would experience God’s peace and healing touch and the allergic systems would go away. So she was using my music to get rid of allergy symptoms and also she said to sleep at night. I love that because I do believe that we can take dominion over sickness and that there are ways that God works through music and worship to touch those places. And so physically and emotionally.
Sid: You know Julie another theme that you told me before we went on the air is “Thankfulness” speak a little about that.
Julie: Thanksgiving if you think about it really thanksgiving is the center of…it’s like the anchor or the foundation of our worship and our praise. Because we’re basically just thanking God for who He is and how amazing He is and how he’s so good and His love never fails. And we’re thanking Him for enabling us to come into a relationship with God. I believe that just on a everyday level that thankfulness opens up our hearts to God in a different way. Especially in an old hymn that says “Count your many blessings, name them one by one.” I feel like there’s something really important lately that I’ve been learning about naming your blessings one by one. And when you do that you come into touch with them in a different way than when you do just say “Thank you for all my blessings.” But when you say “Thank you God that You provided a wonderful meal for me today; and thank You that Benjamin is able to talk with words when he couldn’t even say “Momma” until he was 4 years old.” And things like that where you actually are taking time to concentrate and notice what God does because really He gives us every breath we take. So anyway I believe that is the center and really the foundation for worship.
Sid: Well, I think it’s time to hear this merger of It’s Supernatural anointing presence of God and the anointing and the presence of God on Julie True. And this was recorded live; most of it is spontaneous songs just birthed the moment and I want you to hear this.
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Sid: God wants everyone everywhere to be walking in normal Bible faith; faith as defined by the Bible. And Dr. Sandra Kennedy has gone through some horrific experiences and found out that God’s word is true. And what God has done for her God wants to do for you. In fact people whose necks have pain if you move your head you’ll see the pain is gone and if you bend over you’ll see that the pain in your back’s gone. In fact pain anywhere especially in your hip right now it’s gone in Jesus Name. Now Sandra what I asked you to do is talk on the subject of the book we’re offering and the 3 CD’s called “Proving God.” and I love these prophetic declarations. It’s God’s word personalized and you can speak to your mountain as defined as a specific problem. You have problems with your children, problems with your marriage; problems with your health; problems with your finances; problems with worry; problems with not getting wisdom from God; problems with investments; whatever you take the problem and you pronounce these prophetic declarations and you speak to your mountain and God promises it will move. Sandra talk a little bit about the lessons you’ve learned in proving God as a result of the creative miracle you had.
Sandra: You know Sid I think one the things as I was listening to you I think one of the things that kind of gets people caught in a little bondage that they don’t know how to get out of is they don’t know that they have the right to come boldly to the throne of grace. And yet God really wants us to; I use the example often of a child like a parent teaching a child and a child they tell the child what to do and what to expect such as when you get thus and so age and you do thus and so and I’ll buy you a car. And when the child gets that age the child comes back to the parent and said “When I got here I could have the car, where’s the car?” I think God’s like that I think God wants to know that children have listened enough to Him that we could come back and bring back to Him what He says. Now any parent would be happy to know that the child has paid any attention to him to listen to what they said. So God wants His children to take His word, take His word at face value; come to Him; reason with Him and talk to Him about what He said and let the word be real truth to them. One of the things that happens to people they say “Well, God will do this for you but He won’t do it for me.” But yes He will He’ll do it for anybody He’s just waiting on somebody to step out on the word. And He’ll do it about anything; I mean it’s amazing the kind of marriages that have been restored; the people that has to say. There was one woman that hasn’t had child for 10 years now has 2. As they begin to pray and prophesy over themselves; God doesn’t want us to be barren, God doesn’t want us to when weather comes around; bad weather my entire church will stand up and begin to speak to the weather in the name of Jesus and tell tornadoes and bad weather to suck themselves up in the Name of the Lord. And learning to speak in the Name of Jesus to pray over your animals; to pray about your finances. We’ve had more than 200 people come off of welfare by just taking the word of God; they’ve become tithers, they give and they watch God as they walk. It doesn’t happen instantaneous but they begin to take the word of God and believe God’s word and they’ve learned to trust God in who He says He is to them in every arena of life. People are all the time talking about their children and when they talk about their children they’re talking about how bad their children are. Where the real secret is to talk to your children; you call those things that be not as though they were. You don’t tell them how bad they are you are going to end up in prison or go to jail. No you are going to serve God; I see God on you you are going to serve and be a great man or woman of God. You are going to walk out the things of God and you begin to speak over people what God says about them. Over your own life about what God says about you; and it’s the same thing that Abraham did he believed God. And he began to I call it prophesy over himself meaning he had to quite looking at his own body and he had to believe what God said. When Elijah went up for the rain and he said “God is the one who said that it was going to rain I didn’t say that it was going to rain” God said “God tell Ahab that it was going to rain.” It was God who said it and then all he had to do was follow through on the word of God what God said. And that’s what I’m doing my best to get us to the place of thinking that we can’t be that bold, God wants us to be bold; God wants us to believe Him, God wants us to love Him and to trust Him for the things of God. He wants us to walk in health and healing, He wants you to believe that you are healed instead of trying to believe that you are healed He wants you to believe that you are healed and to begin to speak to your body until your body conforms to the word of God. Don’t let your body tell you when you’re healed you tell your body it’s healed. No matter what it feels like you just speak God’s word over it. Over houses, people need houses I mean you know I drove down the street and said “This is the house I want.” And it fell within the context of what I could afford now; I didn’t try to go out of what I could afford that was another principal. And I went to that house and I felt like this was the house I felt like this was what God wanted me to live and I began to speak over this particular house; it wasn’t even for sale Sid and then I’m coming out of church one day and I felt down in my spirit to drive down by that house that I had been looking at. I watched the man put up the For Sale sign right up in my face and I bought that house instantly. I’ve done it with car after car; we’ve bought our ministry we’re in our fourth facility here. Every single one of them has been done this way and we’d go and walk around and claim them and just say we go up to baptize people up at the lake and it’s never going to rain on us when we go to baptize people this is God’s parade. This is God’s parade it may rain across the lake; I’ve seen in rain across the lake, I’ve seen it rain going all the way up to the lake. But in 20 something years of us baptizing up at the lake it has never rained on us it’s rained on the way up, it’s rained across the lake but it’s never rained on our baptism in 20 something years because we speak to it in the Name of the Lord and use His Name. No you will not do this this is God’s baptismal service this is what God is doing; we’re here to worship God; we’re here to praise Him and you make it a God thing not so much a you thing, it’s a God thing. God wants me healed so that I can serve Him not so that I can play a tennis match; He wants me so that I can show forth the goodness of God in my life and what God is doing. God wants me to have a job there are so many people losing jobs; I teach my people to take the word of God and look up scriptures on jobs and you begin to say “No, I don’t know about you but God will provide a job for me because I’m a tither, I’m a giver I’m building the kingdom of God.” And sure enough God brings them jobs everyone else loses jobs and they don’t lose their job. It’s amazing Sid, it is amazing Sid, amazing the kind of God we serve that wants somebody to take Him at His word, take His word bring the word back to Him. He said “His word would not return to Him void.” He wants somebody to pick up what He said, I mean pick up those scriptures what He said, return them to Him, and He said they would not return void.
Sid: Would you pray for our listening audience right now?
Sandra: Yes, yes. Lord God I thank you that your healing powers are moving in might and power. I thank you Father that hope is all rising up in people’s lives; I thank You that many a person who had no hope now has hope, and I pray Father that they will trust You and move from hope into faith to believe that You are not a man that You should lie. To believe that You would do it for them not because they’re wonderful, but because You are wonderful because You are no respecter of person. So we speak to heart problems; we speak and curse cancer to the root; we call forth jobs in the name of the Lord; we call children to come home and serve God. We thank you Father that You are faithful and You are true. We are thankful that you always do what You say You will do, You cannot lie not that You will not, You cannot lie. I thank You for showing Yourself strong on behalf of Your people. I thank You that they will just sit back in their Easy Chair and think “My goodness what a God I serve; My goodness how wonderful He is. He’ll do it for me I know He will and they will understand that He is not mad with them; He’s on their side; He’s not angry with them; He’s waiting on them just to cast their care upon Him to put their anxiety on Him to trust Him in all situations and to let His word be the final authority in their life.” Father I thank you that you’re going to do that. I expect to hear about healings; I expect to hear about ears popping open; blind eyes seeing. I expect Father particularly supernatural workers with bones and body parts. I just thank you for doing it, and we give You glory and we give You the praise in Jesus name amen and amen.
Sid: You know Sandra as you were coming up with that word of knowledge on bones, I was coming up with arthritis in the fingers, pain in the fingers. If people would just move their hands right now you will see that pain is totally gone.
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Sid: Do you remember Tom Horn I interviewed him about the prophecies about the Popes, the St. Malachi prophecies. Well, I’ve asked Tom to be my guest this week because we have the high privilege of being the exclusive radio and television ministry to be the first to offer his book. And we have an exclusive on it and the book is called “Zenith 2016.” And what that title means is something began in the year 2012 that will reach its apex in 2016. And it’s been a secret until this book; but before we even get into that as I recall that God showed you to the point where you predicted the last pope would resign and he did. And you had prophecies from St. Malachi in which he’s been right on what the Popes would do when they were in office. And according to the Malachi prophecies this pope the current Pope St. Francis is supposed to be the last pope. Now tell me how accurate the prophecies by Malachi were now that we know who the Pope is.
Tom: Yeah, and by the way that’s the hot question right now how does Bergoglio as Pope Francis the first; how does he fulfill the prophecy of the Popes? And when I did your shows earlier this year we only had predicted that Benedict was going to step down; he did that. And we weren’t sure who the next pope was going to be. But I had said on your show at that time that the final pope did not need the Christian name Peter to be a fulfillment of the prophecy of the popes; that he only needed to be of Italian decent. And low and behold some weeks later Bergoglio, whose parents are both Italian; he’s of Italian decent was elected as the Pope. And now there are something’s about him relate to that title Peter that stood out as very intriguing to me and my co-author Chris Putnam for instance. He name himself after St. Francis of Assisi and by doing that he branded himself after an Italian Roman friar whose original name was changed from Giovanni to Francesco de Petrarca or Peter de Bernardon whose name can literally be translated Peter the Roman. So we found that to be astonishing.
Sid: So the Malachi prophecy looks like it’s being fulfilled, but you know when you were on the show you talked about the Vatican Observatory and what they’re doing with ET’s excreta. And you said it was under the control of the Jesuits and this current pope is a Jesuit.
Tom: That’s right and that’s another powerful fulfillment and actually we didn’t see that coming in the sense of him being a Jesuit. But it’s a very important aspect of the prediction in our book because we had said the title “Petrus Romanous or “Peter the Roman” would reaffirm the authority of the Roman Catholic Church. And the Jesuits are under oath of do that very thing to try to work to suppress Protestantism if you will and to bring people back into the church. Ironically this week I read an article where many young evangelical Christians are leaving even Christianity to join the Catholic Church because this rock star pope is so popular. Another connection to that whole exo-vaticana And you still have those books available I believe to your ministry.
Sid: We do.
Tom: So they could get those from you if they want to read about that and those have been bestselling books and I would encourage them if they haven’t to get them from you. But in light of our extraordinary expose’ of the arrival of an alien savior Pope Francis kind of comes into a very unique situation here because there’s facts about him that a lot of people don’t know. For instance, as a young man Bergoglio earned a Master’s Degree in Chemistry from the University in Buenos Aires. He actually had scientific ambitions prior to entering the Jesuit Order. Then when the current leader of the what’s called the Vorg, the Vatican Observatory Research Group, when the leader of that Jose Gabriel Funes, when he entered the Jesuit Order one of the his 3 examiners was Bergoglio. So there’s a historic relationship here that we’re still kind of digging out between Pope Francis and Funes. Funes was the one who astounded the world with his essay “The Alien is My Brother.” He’s the one that kind of got a lot of this theology that’s developing in Rome right now towards the acceptance of an extraterrestrial intelligence that could be even morally superior to us may come here to evangelize us. We may have to change our understanding of the gospel according to some of these.
Sid: But you know what? As big as a bomb shell as it was when you were my guest and revealed these things before I mean you actually prophesied that the last pope would resign as oppose to die in office. And you told the Malachi prophecies which our current Pope fulfills them, but the bombshells that you have in your new book, for instance it’s so mind blowing. But before I even ask you the question about the Masonic predictions that are in our currency and the great seal, and what’s the future of the USA tell me what’s wrong with Masons?
Tom: Well, what what’s wrong with Free Masonry is that it is an occult order; if you compare it in other words to evangelical Christianity there’s nothing in it that is cohesive to the belief system. They will on the one hand acknowledge the Bible as a holy book; they will acknowledge Jesus Christ as a holy person but they only put Him alongside you know the Hindu gods and other kinds of deities. I’ve just recently visited The House of the Temple” the headquarters of Scottish Rite Freemasonry. And if you go into what’s called their chapel their big holy room where there’s a giant throne in there where they have secret meetings, there’s a table in the middle of that has all of the holy books from all over the world. So they’re very you might say they were the first kind of New Agers right; they kind of believe that you can have kind of a homogenous view of God and any root can lead to god.
Sid: But wait a second I’ve got lots of friends that are Masons and they’re strong Christians and they wouldn’t touch something that would be that way.
Tom: Yeah, thats true but you are talking about 32nd degree and lower and that…
Sid: You mean the ones that are 32nd degree and lower don’t have the same information as the higher ones?
Tom: They absolutely do not.
Sid: Ah!
Tom: Freemasonry is on highest level writers have written about this in the past Macky; all of their scholars have written in the past about how up through the… they call those up through the blue degrees up through the 32nd degree are given limited information but they’re only singled out if you will to be taken to the 33rd degree. And it’s at the 33rd degree that they learn who the true god of masonry is which is Osiris; known to the Greeks Apollo. And they codify in the city of Washington our great seal and so many of the Iconic artifacts that are important to this country a prophecy about his return. And it’s actually who they’re looking forward to and as the show goes along we might surprise people when we reveal who some of the people were and are who actually believe that the great architect of the universe as they call him. Also known as Osiris, also known as Apollo; also known in the Old Testament as Nimrod, and probably known in the very near future as the anti-Christ. And they are looking forward to his return and it all stems out of a very aggressive implementation of very powerful Free Masons. Who set the United States up to fulfill a very secret destiny as their greatest philosopher Manly P. Hall referred to it as the secret destiny of America. Which is to become the head of the New World Order at a time of the arrival of the god Apollo.
Sid: It sounds like science fiction to me but it’s happening before our eyes. I had no idea that the founders of our nation a high percentage of them were Masons!
Tom: Yeah, that’s right and that’s kind of the core of this new investigative book “Zenith 2016” that was the quest of that book was to discover and ancient occultist plan had been adopted by early Free Masons in the United States who believed in a secret destiny. And that believed that all would result in this country ushering in a New World Order; a new golden age of which the gods of antiquity would either spiritually or physically reign. And along the way Sid in my research and this research by the way goes back over 20 years so often I would come back to this; I would get new pieces of information. Some of the information that is in this book was the result of a United State senator giving me a lead and actually setting me up with a private visit so I could meet with members of the 33rd.
Sid: Okay, I’m going to let people know some of the things that are in this book; you reveal secret plans for the USA on our paper currency and the great seal of the US for the anti-Christ. You show the Masonic phrases and symbols encryptic speeches that Presidents, current Presidents are using, how science and the government are about ready to produce part human part animal killing machines, the 911 connection to currency and Masons. Why the mark of the beast will prevent people from being saved as the Bible says and I mean it goes on and on.
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Sid: Guess what this happens this weekend? Pesach, otherwise known as Passover. Many of you that say “Well I don’t know much about Passover; I’m not that interested in Passover.” Well then let me tell you about the King of the Jews. Do you remember the Last Supper? That was a Passover Seder, a Passover meal. If you do not understand Passover you cannot understand the richness of what the Messiah did for us. There are so many parallels between Passover and communion, and the Last Supper, and Jesus dying for all of your pains and all of your diseases. I have on the telephone by invitation Dr. John Miller. He’s a chiropractor from Tampa, Florida. He has been studying medicine; studying how to heal people for over 40 years, and he’s had a passion to understand healing in the atonement. John tell me the circumstances of how you started understanding there was a lot more to communion than meets the eye.
John: Well as a physician I was reading in 1st Corinthians 11 one time and Paul said “He that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.” In the Greek there “many sleep” means dead. So as a physician I began to realize Paul said “The health of the Christian will be determined how he takes communion.” So I began to study healing from a spiritual standpoint rather than a physical standpoint that I had been educated in up to that point.
Sid: Well tell me when you first realized when it passed from theory to reality. Meaning you either you started either yourself or your family, or people you were teaching started getting healed from communion.
John: Well I’d been raised in a church where they believed in healing and they prayed for the sick, but they had no understanding what Jesus actually went through to provide the healing. The more I studied what Jesus sacrificed to give us physical healing, the more real it became to me. I had the opportunity for about 4 years to travel the world doing pastor and missionary conferences and teach this message and see people healed all over the world. Some had taken communion for 40 years; I remember the wife of a president of Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship in Republic of China. She had had stomach pain for like 20 years and she played the piano in the meeting. I taught on communion and when she had communion through the communion service at the end of the message her stomach was totally healed. I’ve seen that repeated all over the world.
Sid: But yet there are many people that take communion and they don’t get instantly healed, and you gave me a revelation the last time that we talked together on how God showed you there was a progressive healing for many people with communion. Explain that.
John: God miraculously healed some people on the spot, but…
Sid: That’s my kind of healing I might add I like it; I love it! (Laughing)
John: Yeah, I would vote for that. (Laughing) Jesus said “As a man believeth in his heart so is he,” or if a person believes something “all things are possible to him that believeth” Jesus said. So a person that does not feel that they have the faith to put on the line when they take communion for an instant healing can believe…
Sid: Excuse me… like someone that has perhaps been praying for a decade for a chronic problem, so therefore, maybe the first time they prayed 10 years ago they had a lot of faith. For over 10 years they’ve been praying for this chronic problem and they haven’t been healed, so their faith has gone south unfortunately. By the way, as I was sharing that the Holy Spirit said that people in pain, especially in the neck and back, especially in the spine and the hip, any area of pain; in your fingers; you are healed in Jesus name. So explain… so someone like that for 10 years they’ve been believing God, and they still believe God but there is a degree of doubt if they want to be honest with themselves. Simply because their experience has been so different than the written word of God; so talk to that person in reference to communion as a point of contact.
John: In science we call that “Conditioned Response” they prayed and got no response; they prayed and got no response; they prayed and got no response, so they expect no response.
Sid: By the way, even though in their mind they say “I know God heals” but there’s something with all of those years of having bad results it’s almost programmed “God heals others, but He’s not going to heal me.”
John: I had been studying the healing through the use of the sacraments of communion for 10 or 12 years. God spoke to me and said “I was to meet Johnny Cash,” the famous singer, “and give him my communion teaching.” Two weeks later I saw in a paper where he had cancer and was dying. Well I knew then why God had spoken to me. Later I saw where he was going to be giving a concert in Clearwater, Florida. So I bought some tickets and went over there and had the opportunity to meet him and give him the communion teaching. This was his first concert after they had taken bone out of his pelvis and put up in his jaw. His wife told me later that she could look in his mouth and the gum was eaten away, then the bone disappeared.
Sid: Hmm.
John: Then this was his first concert after, and was definitely ill trying to perform the concert. I gave him the teaching and the two days later he listened to the tape and took communion, and was healed and sent me this letter:
Dear Dr. Miller,
Thanks for a great blessing today. First, I listened to your tape all the way through taking notes and copying scripture. Then I set up the little communion set you sent. My wife and I held hands, had prayer, broke the bread, and drank the wine.
Healing has set it in I know it I feel it in body and in Spirit. This will be a daily thing for me alone, or with June, or another of the family circle.
Thank you may God continue to inspire you and teach you,
Johnny Cash
Well at that point Johnny Cash had only rehearsed 4 songs to do on this tour because that’s as much strength as he had. After he took communion on his bus he went out and did an hour and half concert and wrote this letter.
Sid: Now for those that are not aware of it, 12 years later after he was healed of cancer Johnny Cash died, but it had nothing to do with cancer.
John: This one line “This will be a daily thing for me alone or with June, or another of the family circle” kept going through my mind. I said “God what did Johnny Cash get out of this that I’ve missed?” God began to reveal to me that you have the body of Christ in the New Testament, He handed us the bread and said “This is my body which is broken for you.” So the matzah bread of communion represents the body of Christ. In Acts 2 when the Holy Spirit came down and set on them as cloven tongues of fire they received the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Peter stood up and preached and 3,000 people were saved. In Acts 2 it says “They continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine, prayer, breaking of bread, and the giving of thanks.” Then you drop down to verse 46 and it says “They continued daily in the temple breaking of bread house to house.” So I saw that the New Testament church took communion daily at this point. What God also revealed to me is the manna that came down for 40 years in the wilderness and sustained the people physically they received daily. Jesus made this statement “Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness and are dead, but I tell you I am the real bread that came from heaven. Unless you My flesh you have no life in you.” So they ate the manna which was a type of eating the body of Christ daily, and they ate the bread of communion daily. So then I saw what Johnny Cash had received when said “This will be a daily thing for me alone or with June, or another of the family circle.” That probably increased my personal healing by communion more than any other one thing. What God was showing in the manna because you couldn’t collect enough Monday to get you through Tuesday; healing is a daily thing from God you can’t get enough healing in you today to get you through tomorrow. God always reserved healing and prosperity of His people He reserved that for Himself. Anytime that you were sick or needed or prosperity you had to go directly to God. This is born out in Deuteronomy 28 “If you keep my commandments you won’t have any diseases. You’ll be blessed in the storehouse, the field, the reproduction of your cattle; if you don’t keep them then you will be cursed in those areas. God sent His word and healed them.”
Sid: You know John we are out time right here, but I’ll tell you the thing that was so revolutionary to me is when you brought out in the previous interview we did that if someone doesn’t manifest their healing the first time they take communion by believing that it’s almost like medicine, and God’s word is medicine. That as they take communion each time they’re a little bit more, and a little bit more, and little bit more healed as far as the manifestation. Can you think of one person that did it this way and got their healing beyond Johnny Cash?
John: Yes Miriam Carrie had Epstein Barr and she went and took communion 3 times a day. In 2 weeks her blood tests were coming back normal.
Sid: Oops! We’re out of time.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth