JAMES: And so she prayed if you’ll give me another son, I’ll dedicate him to Christ’s service! So then one year later to the very date that she prayed that, I was born and so that means July 3rd, 1952. So when I came out of my momma’s womb I waved my hand!
MIKE: [Laughs]
JAMES: And I said, “Hallelujah!”
MIKE: [Laughs] Well praise God!
JAMES: [Laughing]
MIKE: That’s such a connection between us because my mother had a miscarriage.
JAMES: Yeah.
MIKE: And I was the third child.
JAMES: And I was the third child.
MIKE: And I was very, very, very sickly.
JAMES: Okay.
MIKE: To the point where doctors were saying he may very well die.
JAMES: Yeah.
MIKE: I was Catholic, which is quite different.
JAMES: Yeah, sure.
MIKE: Our family was Catholic and my mother had not dedicated any of the children to God because she thought that meant they would become priests or nuns.
JAMES: [Laughing]
MIKE: And she wanted all her children to marry and have children.
JAMES: Okay. She wanted grandchildren!
MIKE: Yeah! She felt that’s what she wanted us to be.
JAMES: Sure. Yeah.
MIKE: But she was so concerned for me one day all alone in the home she lifted me up to God and she said, “God if you’ll just spare his life I’d dedicate him to the ministry!”
JAMES: Wow!
MIKE: And I’m the only one among my siblings, who is involved in full-time ministry! So I think this illustrates in you and in me the power of a mother’s prayer.
JAMES: Oh, that is really good!
MIKE: The power of a mother’s prayer!
JAMES: I believe in that huge! I know you know we might talk something about one of the books, “The Seer,” but prayer makes history before the throne of God!
MIKE: What a statement!
JAMES: I so believe this! I eat, live it, breathe it! I don’t just write about it. I really try to live it! That we have the opportunity as believers to make history before the throne of Almighty God through our prayers and the prayers of a mother! I know the Book of James says, you know, that the prayer of a righteous man availeth much. But I’m going to like, uh, like play with it, work with that a little!
MIKE: [Laughing]
JAMES: The prayer of a righteous mother availeth much!
MIKE: Yes, absolutely!
JAMES: You know? So yeah!
MIKE: If God listened to anybody, He listens to mamas when they pray!
JAMES: That’s right! Yeah!
MIKE: Well we want to focus on your book “The Seer.”
JAMES: Uh-huh.
MIKE: Now even though I’ve read some of your works for years I had never read “The Seer” until I found out I would be interviewing you. Wow, what a wealth of revelation! And can you start at least unveiling the beginning truth in your book about two streams of the prophetic in the body of Christ?
JAMES: You know you pray over anything that you put your hand to. And for every book they’re almost like babies, you know? And so you really pray into the conception, the concepts, the principles, the work that goes into this. So in understanding Biblically, theologically, and having studied this in Jewish and in Church history and the modern moves of the Holy Spirit, I saw that there were two distinct streams of the prophetic but they converge together to make one mighty river of God. And so I found an illustration. Cause Jesus taught in parables, right?
MIKE: Right.
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SID: Speaking of children, what did the prophets say about families?
CINDY: You’re going to love this one. The Lord told us that he was getting ready to really emphasize prodigals are going to come home. People whose kids have gone away from the Lord, or marriages are breaking up, that we have a certain sphere of society we call mountains, you know that, but God is going to give us a focus on that.
CINDY: In fact, our friend, John Hamil, he has been talking about turnaround Tuesdays, have everybody on Tuesdays pray. Imagine all over the world people are praying for families to be restored. But listen, you may have been praying a long, long time for your family, but I’m telling you, don’t give up praying. They’re coming home. Don’t give up praying for those prodigals.
SID: You know what, I have been praying, and I recommend you start praying. Praying for supernatural wisdom. We’re living in new times, in a new season, and we have to hear from God more than I think in my whole lifetime, especially now. And you know what, God’s been answering that prayer. I’m amazed. I shouldn’t be, but I am.
CINDY: Now, I heard somebody say, “Well, I just can’t do that.” I heard at somebody saying that, and the Lord just says to you, “No, yes you can.” That’s why you’re listening today. You’re going to get that word of knowledge, word of wisdom, which means supernatural knowledge, and you have it when you have the Holy Spirit in you. If you don’t ask for the Holy Spirit, he’ll give it to you.
SID: Now, you have been praying for nations, your specialty is praying for my nations.
CINDY: My specialty, right.
SID: And we can have a whole program on just heads of governments you’ve prophesied into, or nations you’ve prayed for and it’s happened, what you’ve prayed for them. Give me one more example.
CINDY: Thanks. I was in South Korea, and sometimes when I go into a nation, I’ll say, “I want to meet with the president. Tell him a prophet wants to meet with the president,” or the mayor or something like that.
SID: But it would take favor to do that, you can’t just walk in and say, “I want to see President Biden.”
CINDY: But at the word of the Lord. So I was flying into Seoul and I said, “Well, let me see the mayor of Seoul city.” And so I go in, the mayor did not know who I was, but psychics aren’t afraid of saying they’re a psychic, I’m not afraid of saying I’m a prophet. So I went in there and I prophesied to this leader. I said, “You’re going to heal the ecology of your nation.” Well, the man, that was his expertise in healing environment and taking down pollution levels. And I said, “And you’re to run for president. You’ll be the next president.”
SID: He hadn’t thought about running?
CINDY: Yes, he had. He didn’t know who I was, but his family had been praying that I would go give him a word. And he ran and he became the President of Korea. President Lee.
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SID: Bill, you’re making me very jealous. How would you like an angel to write that on your forehead? But, Bill, I have a favorite angel because he’s the angel of the Jewish people. So it makes sense, his name is Michael. Listen to this. He met Michael.
Audience: Wow.
SID: Please briefly tell me about it.
BILL: Yes. I’ve only had a few [inaudible] experiences like this in my 68 years of ministry, about one every seven or eight years. It’s not every day like some people. Jesus came, I had a four point vision and as I … He walked me up this path and introduced me to this majestic man. I mean, a person, and dressed like a great warrior. And he says, “Bill Hamon, this is General Michael, the head of my armies of angels.” He said, “General Michael, this is Bill Hamon, one of my top generals of my army of saints.”
BILL: And Cindy Jacobs had prophesied to me just a little while before that that God had made me a five-star general in the army of the Lord. Then we sat there and talked and it seemed it like I was off out here watching us talk and we talked about how we was going to win this latter day, last day war, how we was going to bring the Kingdom of God to planet Earth, how we was going to cause the return of Jesus to take place by fulfilling all things.
BILL: I started doing corporate warfare and I went into … I’m going to over 30 nations and done corporate warfare with a shout of faith and seen transformations in tremendous ways. And I’m trying to raise up an army. My main ministry’s been the prophetic for the last 60 years but the last 15 years I’ve been mainly working to raise up an army of the Lord and show saints how to do corporate warfare. Most of them know how to do personal warfare but they don’t know how to do corporate warfare.
BILL: I was talking to Chuck Pierce the other day and he said, “You know the old prayer style is not going to work in this day and hour. We’ve got to move it to a new level and it’s got to be a level of warfare.” So we try to train our saints in prayer to move in the word of knowledge, word of wisdom, discern the spirits, prayer, decree and with a shout of faith that goes off like an atomic bomb in the camp of the enemy and blows the enemy apart.
Amen. Amen.
SID: Now, did you ever in your wildest imagination as a young man on fire for Jesus but as a young man in your wildest imagination think that you would equip a half a million people to move in the prophetic.
BILL: Yeah. Well, I’m still a young man. I’m only 87.
SID: Well, everything’s relative. Compared to Moses you’re very young man. Moses started his ministry at 80. He’s just seven years in ministry.
BILL: No, never, ever but I remember when I was pastor … I started pastoring at 19 years old and I was pastoring a small church and they’d gone through every situation and I was fired up. I came out of Bible college, I wanted to be Oral Roberts and William Branham and everybody rolled up in one Bill Hamon and God sent me to this little old church and left me there six years to make the man before he made the ministry. I got married there and three children, but I had to learn that God called me for a specific purpose.
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HRVOJE: Having the fear of God is running towards God. It’s not running away from God. I believe it’s a door and gateway to the highest levels of glory. I believe if we have the fear of God I really believe that nothing’s going to be impossible for us, nothing.
SID: You talked earlier about seeing God and you talked about what was it? Some 80 people saw God in the Scriptures but few walked with God.
HRVOJE: That’s right. Exodus 24:9-11, that was my life Bible verse. I thought it can’t get any more glorious than that. The Bible says that Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu and the 70 elders they went up to the mountain, they saw God and ate and drank with him. I thought, “Man, that’s it. That’s it. Come on. That’s it.” But then, that’s chapter 24 and in chapter 32 you see exactly the same guys except Moses and Joshua building the golden calf. The saw God yet still they ended up in idolatry.
SID: It’s hard to believe.
HRVOJE: You know what I believe? God said to me, I said, “God, how is this possible?” And God said, “Because after that incident Moses went further up. All others went down.” So all others were satisfied with what they saw and they were happy to just post it on the social media about that experience. But Moses wasn’t happy with social media. He wanted more of God. He wanted to walk with God. He said, “No, no, no it’s fine to see God. It’s fine to eat with God. It’s fine to drink with God but God show me your way. I want to walk with you.”
HRVOJE: Acts 4. I love Acts 4 where Peter and John were in front of the Sanhedrin and the Sanhedrin questioned them and you know what the Sanhedrin said? We see these guys and the Bible says they are uneducated and untrained. The word untrained in Greek is idiotes.
SID: Oh I know that one. Idiot.
HRVOJE: There you go. That’s what they saw in Peter and John but then they said, “Something is different with them.” And then they saw they walked, they have been with Jesus. And that’s what the glory of God does. I believe the glory of God, we can measure the glory of God. How can we measure the glory of God? The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 3:18, “Beholding like in a mirror the glory of God being transformed into the image from glory to glory.”
HRVOJE: Transformed into which image? Into the image of Jesus Christ. How much glory we have experienced is measured by how much are we transformed into the same image as Jesus Christ. Do we love more? Do we forgive more? Do we repent more? Do we praise more? Do we long more for the presence of God?
SID: Okay, level nine, unity with God.
HRVOJE: Unity with God. I believe that’s the highest level any human will ever reach.
SID: You said there were 10 levels.
HRVOJE: There are 10. That’s the highest for us.
SID: Okay. Tell us about the ninth.
HRVOJE: The ninth—
SID: Since that’s the only one we can reach.
HRVOJE: Level nine is unity with God and you know what? 24 hours before the hardest time of Jesus’ life he prays this prayer and he prays for unity. Unity between us Christians, between us believers and unity with God. I believe unity is the strongest bond between us. The Bible says that what God said and we know the story about the Tower of Babel in Genesis 11 and God had to mess up their languages because he said, “These people are as one.” And he said, “Nothing is going to be impossible for them.” These were unbelievers.
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SID: But you say all angels are angels of fire. Why?
CANDICE: Yes, including our guardian angels. Because the throne of God is a throne of fire, and they all have to be able to get near the throne of God. We have our seraphim angels, our cherubim angels, and they surround the throne. So they all have to have the fire properties within them. All right? And we know this from Isaiah chapter six, because when the Lord came to Isaiah, the seraphim angels came and brought a coal that came to purify the lips of Isaiah straight from the throne of God. So around the throne is fire and fire properties that we actually need in our bodies to be healthy.
SID: Well, you’ve had a lot of encounters with angels.
CANDICE: Yes.
SID: Tell me about that eight-foot angel.
CANDICE: Yes. Yared ,the giant killer.
SID: His name, you knew his name?
CANDICE: Know his name. I encountered—
SID: And Yared, does that mean giant killer?
CANDICE: Yep. Well actually ya stands for Yahweh. Okay? Red is the Hebrew word admoni, which is broken down to reddish. Okay? Reddish, okay? And who do we know had a reddish appearance but David. And what did David do? He killed the giant. In order for us to see greater healings and miracles, the Lord will send us angels on assignment that will come and they will perform specific duties so that they’re in agreement with us. They’re there to perform the duties that are necessary so that God’s people can be healed, saved, and delivered.
SID: So we have to just believe that they’re with us, as opposed to, “God send an angel.” All we have to do is cooperate with them.
CANDICE: That’s exactly right. And it’s by faith, Sid. This is why it’s for everyone. And, of course, we’re not making this up. It’s in the word of God, specifically that he sent these angels as messengers to be his agents along with us partnering to see the end-time harvest, the end-time revival, the glory being released. So now’s the time, as you and I both know, now’s the time in the earth for this.
SID: So when this eight-foot angel showed up, what happened?
CANDICE: Well, he showed up in my dream. Okay? And I get a lot of dreams and visions from the Lord. But nonetheless, whether they’re right in front of me, which I can see these here, or whether or not they’re in my dreams, I see all kinds of things in my dreams that the Lord is saying, “This is what I have assigned to you or where I want you to go and I want you to do.” So I had a dream and Yared was in my dream and he was about eight feet tall. He had red hair and he asked me to come over to him. This is in the dream. It was so powerful, Sid. I walked over to him. He was actually kind of dressed… he was dressed in human form. He didn’t have angel wings. Okay? He was human form. But as he asked me to come near him in the dream, he began to whisper in my ear. And the minute I got near him, I felt this intense presence of the Lord. It was so strong. And then directly after that time is when the Lord spoke to me his name, Yared, and the Lord told me, “You have seen him because I’m sending him with you to go to England, Ireland and France, where you’re going to be on your next ministry assignment.”
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